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My Resignation from the Intercept

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Re: My Resignation from the Intercept

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Post by mundo »

insickness wrote: post #546
ciarannolan wrote: post #369

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Senate Homeland Security committee and DNI director [...] Both of these are partisan, unreliable sources. The DNI used to be a nonpartisan that you could at least trust somewhat. Not anymore.

The burden of proof is on you to prove that it is Russian disinfo, not to prove that it is not. No one has any proof that it is. And Greenwald lays out plenty of reasons in his article why the documents are likely real.

If we knew that (let's say) the Mexican government was trying to (let's say) keep Taylor Swift from winning a Grammy, and then a video of (let's say) Taylor Swift's cousin kicking a kitten mysteriously materialized the week before the Grammys, the reasonable assumption to make would not be that it was a lucky coincidence.

To continue this ridiculous metaphor, Glenn Greenwald is the guy arguing strenuously that this is a huge story, and anyone not covering it must be in the bag for Beyonce, because the video is authentic, it's been triple-checked, and just look at how her cousin refuses to deny it! And the rest of us are over here like, "Right, but did Tay-Tay herself actually do anything? Kicking kittens is indeed bad, but her cousin isn't the one running for President. Er, excuse me, her cousin isn't the one who's up for Best Female Vocal Performance."

Re: My Resignation from the Intercept

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Post by shoulderfake »

sandwichest wrote: post #478
bachmeier wrote: post #20

"as a last-ditch attempt to avoid being censored, I encouraged them to air their disagreements with me by writing their own articles that critique my perspectives and letting readers decide who is right" That's not how this works. If the editor concludes that it's a garbage story dropped a few days before the election in an attempt to influence the election, you don't run it and then "let the readers decide who is ri…

> "If the editor concludes that it's a garbage story dropped a few days before the election in an attempt to influence the election" This is bordering on hyperbole. 1. Glenn Greenwald isn't one to produce a "Garbage Story," he's a credible journalist with a long history of dropping bombshells. He's dropped bombshells about both the right AND the left. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glenn_Greenwald#Awards 2. It's the j…

Well said. I can't believe people agree with this rationale. And he completely missed the part where the article states "these Intercept editors also demanded that I refrain from exercising a separate contractual right to publish this article with any other publication. " ...yea so its pretty clear what their agenda is

Re: My Resignation from the Intercept

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Post by kelnos »

bachmeier wrote: post #20

"as a last-ditch attempt to avoid being censored, I encouraged them to air their disagreements with me by writing their own articles that critique my perspectives and letting readers decide who is right" That's not how this works. If the editor concludes that it's a garbage story dropped a few days before the election in an attempt to influence the election, you don't run it and then "let the readers decide who is ri…

> That's not how this works.

It is when it's a media outlet you yourself founded and (according to Greenwald) the other editors were contractually obligated to publish what he'd written, uncensored.

Regardless of whether or not his article is good or bad, it seems like that is indeed how it should have worked.

Re: My Resignation from the Intercept

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Post by pvg »

owenversteeg wrote: post #597
pvg wrote: post #387

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Intercept's editor-in-chief has put out a statement of their own. https://twitter.com/ErikWemple/status/1321896097099489283 Greenwald himself just confirmed on twitter he could publish with no editorial oversight. Eventually, his colleagues balked. "A grown person throwing a tantrum", as the editor puts it, sounds about right.

Regardless of your position here, that statement is definitely not a good look for the Intercept. Immediately attacking a former employee and making numerous typos in your statement as the editor in chief? Good lord. Capitalizing the name of your own publication three different ways in three consecutive sentences has to be a record.

I mean, if that's 'Good lord', Greenwald's original letter is 'Jesus H. Fucking Christ On A Stick Rolled In Pigeon Droppings'.

Re: My Resignation from the Intercept

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Post by reilly3000 »

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/security/how-fake-persona-laid-... This is why the Intercept didn't want to run Glenn's story.

FYI this sob story has some precedent: In 2014: "I absolutely refuse to be exiled from my own country for the crime of doing journalism and I'm going to force the issue just on principle. And I think going back for a ceremony like the Polk Awards or other forms of journalistic awards would be a really good symbolic test of having to put the government in the position of having to arrest journalists who are coming back to the US to receive awards for the journalism they have done."

He wasn't arrested. He wasn't even menaced by authorities. The dude has a serious persecution complex.

Re: My Resignation from the Intercept

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Post by purple_ferret »

untog wrote: post #543
eric_b wrote: post #431

Earlier quoted context omitted.

She attacks him personally without ever refuting any of his points. She hand waves that they will correct the record "in time." Her response is riddled with sensationalist language. I'm gonna go with Greenwald's version of events on this one. This person seems fully compromised.

I'd suggest reading the e-mail thread regarding the article: https://greenwald.substack.com/p/emails-with-intercept-edito... The editor in no way seems compromised to me. There's a lot of very clear, straightforward and polite feedback. I suspect what we're seeing in the statement is a great deal of frustration, which is perhaps not surprising.

Honestly looks like he was looking for a reason to leave and created his own excuse.

From his explanation:

> these Intercept editors also demanded that I refrain from exercising a separate contractual right to publish this article with any other publication.

From the emails:

> It would be unfortunate and detrimental to The Intercept for this story to be published elsewhere.

Where's the demand? It sounds like the EIC can't even express her own opinion to Glenn

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