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Sketch: Proud to Build a Truly Native Mac App

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Re: Sketch: Proud to Build a Truly Native Mac App

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Post by PostThisTooFast »

api wrote: post #308
noen wrote: post #173

Design is communication. I loved sketch and was a devout user for years. But with Sketch, I can only communicate with a very small set of people. It required a plethora of other tools and services to share, get feedback, or insights on my work. The tool is only as effective as the reach of its creation. If technology has shown us anything in this generation, it is that reach and collaboration are immensely more valua…

This is exactly why almost nobody writes native apps anymore. You're restricted to only one platform, which limits your ability to collaborate with anyone not using that platform. Asking someone to actually install an app is also itself a huge barrier. Installation of native apps on desktop is a nightmare requiring at least two or three steps, which is unforgivable to most users in 2020 for anything approaching consu…

Except when you need to work on the plane.

If installing an app is “a nightmare” for you, I don’t want you anywhere near my project.

Re: Sketch: Proud to Build a Truly Native Mac App

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Post by devwastaken »

noen wrote: post #173

Design is communication. I loved sketch and was a devout user for years. But with Sketch, I can only communicate with a very small set of people. It required a plethora of other tools and services to share, get feedback, or insights on my work. The tool is only as effective as the reach of its creation. If technology has shown us anything in this generation, it is that reach and collaboration are immensely more valua…

This is what users have been saying since the dawn of time. Developers don't get it, they think everybody is using their platform and their software is so much better, so it must beat out the problems of multiplatform software.

Reality is if your average user can't click and install, very few are going to use your GUI software. They don't care how it's made. This is the great divide between engineer and user that's examples every day here on HN.

Re: Sketch: Proud to Build a Truly Native Mac App

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Post by bybjorn »

noen wrote: post #173

Design is communication. I loved sketch and was a devout user for years. But with Sketch, I can only communicate with a very small set of people. It required a plethora of other tools and services to share, get feedback, or insights on my work. The tool is only as effective as the reach of its creation. If technology has shown us anything in this generation, it is that reach and collaboration are immensely more valua…

There is a Zeplin plugin for Sketch which works pretty well https://zeplin.io/

Re: Sketch: Proud to Build a Truly Native Mac App

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Post by threatofrain »

asien wrote: post #317
zepto wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is all true, but VSCode also had a lot of money thrown at it in terms of Microsoft paying multiple teams of developers. That is what nova couldn’t compete with.

I remember Monaco , the actual Editor inside VS Code being developed while I was in my first year of Computing Software Bachelor. 3 years later they released VS Code Alpha. They spent millions on it.

Millions in 3 years could mean less than 5 engineers. Don’t startups typically put more ambition into their bets?

Re: Sketch: Proud to Build a Truly Native Mac App

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Post by zepto »

threatofrain wrote: post #324
asien wrote: post #317

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I remember Monaco , the actual Editor inside VS Code being developed while I was in my first year of Computing Software Bachelor. 3 years later they released VS Code Alpha. They spent millions on it.

Millions in 3 years could mean less than 5 engineers. Don’t startups typically put more ambition into their bets?

It has been way more than that. (Based on conversations with a team member)

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Post by bobbylarrybobby »

Razengan wrote: post #147
eyelidlessness wrote: post #64

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I love the things VSCode offers that its competition doesn’t. I can’t imagine working with any of the other available editors for the Mac. I hate how I feel like I’m working in a weird web app all day every day. I feel both simultaneously.

Give Panic's Nova a try: https://nova.app

No vim plugin makes it DOA as far as I'm concerned

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Post by sgt »

fareesh wrote: post #297
sgt wrote: post #209

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Here in South Africa I have observed quite a significant growth in Apple's market share over the last 15 years. Unfortunately we don't deal directly with Apple, but rather franchises that make it seem like are working closely with Apple. Prices are relatively high but reasonable, and I haven't had issues with support. At my workplace: Apple devices are generally super reliable; and since we started giving Macs to all…

How long do the macs usually last before they need to be replaced?

So long that the users come up with any excuse to get the latest model. We usually replace them after 3-5 years based on usage. But we also have a couple that are still in use after 8-9 years.

Re: Sketch: Proud to Build a Truly Native Mac App

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Post by asien »

threatofrain wrote: post #324
asien wrote: post #317

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I remember Monaco , the actual Editor inside VS Code being developed while I was in my first year of Computing Software Bachelor. 3 years later they released VS Code Alpha. They spent millions on it.

Millions in 3 years could mean less than 5 engineers. Don’t startups typically put more ambition into their bets?

Large Corporation are not startups.

Teams in enterprise don’t have the freedom to innovate the same way startups do.

5 people for something that could never see the light , even in a multi billion dollar , was very risky and lot of money.

Obviously it’s now 1000% recouped.

Re: Sketch: Proud to Build a Truly Native Mac App

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Post by brailsafe »

statictype wrote: post #74

This will go well with the Daringfireball crowd but that’s about it. I do like native apps and would prefer them all things being equal. But all things rarely are equal. That’s why I use VSCode instead of Sublime. And Gmail instead of Apple Mail. Instead of justifying why native apps are better they should really just explain why Sketch is better. None of the reasons they gave are compelling.

Isn't sublime a cross-platform python-based app? Probably most of the innovation in modern text editors was at least inspired by TextMate.
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