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Sketch: Proud to Build a Truly Native Mac App

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Re: Sketch: Proud to Build a Truly Native Mac App

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Post by sedivy94 »

blntechie wrote: post #286
rado wrote: post #194

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Yes, functional spyware with broken UI. A dark mode explorer window is drawn in light mode for a split second and then painted black. It's ridiculous.

I see the same behavior on an external display connected MacBook with Safari. Split second day mode before dark mode. Same for videos from YouTube in Safari when they go full screen. I use Windows 10 for work and Mac OS for personal use and both have their share of quirkiness and bugs. Mac OS is way more mouse based UI and interestingly no one complains about it.

Personally, I heavily rely on gesture-based navigation on MacBooks. An equivalent trackpad for Windows laptops is nowhere to be found. It's a huge selling point for me, and it's a shame that there's little-to-no competition in that regard.

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Post by eightysixfour »

nbzso wrote: post #166
JKCalhoun wrote: post #107

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I must be the only one that refuses to pay for a software subscription. But I'm not a pro, don't have corporate to pay for my license, may only use a drawing, design, paint program occasionally.

I am pro and don't use cloud software in production, actually this is a clause in contract for my clients. They care about quality not trendiness. Downvotes on your comment are telling me that this is the new JS topic. Oh no.... :)

I think there are plenty of things to knock cloud based SaaS tools for but quality is a weird one - there are plenty of high quality cloud based solutions that can deliver high quality outputs.

Re: Sketch: Proud to Build a Truly Native Mac App

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Post by andjd »

jmnicolas wrote: post #206
rado wrote: post #194

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Yes, functional spyware with broken UI. A dark mode explorer window is drawn in light mode for a split second and then painted black. It's ridiculous.

Sorry I can't comment on that, I'm probably the last person on earth that doesn't use dark mode.

It's good to know there are at least two!

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Post by tambourine_man »

greggman3 wrote: post #142
tambourine_man wrote: post #106

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A lot of Mac users do. We chose the platform because of it, among other things. I hate that WhatsApp, Skype and other crap Electron apps that I’m forced to use because of other people can’t do simple things like propor multi language spell checking that macOS has had since day one and that every other app gets for free.

Both WhatsApp and Skype have web versions that, at least for me, work just fine. And Chrome's spellcheck is miles ahead of MacOS

>And Chrome's spellcheck is miles ahead of MacOS

Please substantiate this claim. To me, the opposite is true.

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Post by s17n »

mortenjorck wrote: post #134
CognitiveLens wrote: post #4

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Presumably - Sketch is great software, well built, but the fact that in late 2020 they still have to write "And soon, the ability to collaborate in real-time" is the the best counter-argument to building native for me personally.

This is somewhat orthogonal, but I don’t understand the draw of real-time collaboration. As a designer, I’d much rather collaborate via the Git-like system of Abstract, committing changes and merging pull requests than have things happening elsewhere in the file I’m working on with no versioning or notification. Real-time collaboration has never been in demand among developers, has it?

I think the reason that people want real-time collaboration has been that merging diffs, which is already a hassle for code, has historically not really been possible for designers. With realtime collaboration, you can have people working in parallel without having to solve the merging problem.

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Post by asien »

zepto wrote: post #76
threatofrain wrote: post #62

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Hence why Visual Studio Code destroyed the editor world. As an editor it was nothing special at all; at that time it was just intellisense that blew it up IMO. People were willing to eat non-native solely for intellisense. By now VSC has developed a moat with their incredible velocity for delivering new features, like voice chat, shared sessions, git + docker + debugger integration, etc. By the time Nova came out the…

This is all true, but VSCode also had a lot of money thrown at it in terms of Microsoft paying multiple teams of developers. That is what nova couldn’t compete with.

I remember Monaco , the actual Editor inside VS Code being developed while I was in my first year of Computing Software Bachelor.

3 years later they released VS Code Alpha.

They spent millions on it.

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Post by WolfRazu »

arrayjumper wrote: post #295
shp0ngle wrote: post #247

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the thing with web apps is - it's slow, but it is the Java's original goal from the 90s "write once, run everywhere" actually realized. Plus, built-in collaborativeness and automatic updates. And, easier to get developers. Native is nice, native is fast, and it will have its place (compare how bad is Google Meet compared to Zoom with respect to CPU/RAM), but web is becoming "good enough".

> Native is nice, native is fast Only if you are using a Mac. On linux, the zoom client is neither fast nor (in my admittedly slightly subjective opinion) nice.

Zoom is Electron isn't it? That's not native.

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Post by PostThisTooFast »

rado wrote: post #194
jmnicolas wrote: post #193

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No it's the opposite: Windows is a functioning spyware.

Yes, functional spyware with broken UI. A dark mode explorer window is drawn in light mode for a split second and then painted black. It's ridiculous.

Which is pathetic because for decades Windows had user-definable color schemes at the system level, which all properly-written apps easily adopted.

Just before people finally realized how stupid inverse color schemes are, Microsoft got rid of the whole thing.

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