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Re: Twitter still hasn't unlocked the New York Post's account

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Post by ZeteticElench »

mainstreem wrote: post #731
projektfu wrote: post #449

Earlier quoted context omitted.

After the Killian documents controversy, the onus is on the publisher to authenticate this type information before they publish it, not on the public to believe it until it is shown to be inauthentic. In that event, the Republican candidate was hurt by a forgery that then resulted in the resignation of Dan Rather, a very prominent news anchor. In the impeachment case, that was not a case of the press digging up a doc…

> After the Killian documents controversy, the onus is on the publisher to authenticate this type information before they publish it The problem is that this is not the standard that has been applied to the Left, e.g. the story in the Atlantic about the President disparaging troops, which was based on an anonymous source and even John Bolton, who wrote a whole book talking trash about Trump, said it didn't actually h…

"Trump was impeached for investigating that corruption. And that's the truth. "

No, that is pure GOP propaganda.

Re: Twitter still hasn't unlocked the New York Post's account

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Post by [deleted] »

free_rms wrote: post #745
HelloMcFly wrote: post #708

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I do not cast doubt on Taibbi. I think the work he is doing is great, and should have been where the effort was in the first place. But so much of that particular topic is just circumstantial chum in the water that either few people actually investigated, or those that did could find little real supporting evidence. But let me use Taibbi's own words here: “If something comes in and we don’t know the exact providence…

I'll just say, if you're gonna put your thumb on the scale, you need to not fuck it up. They streisand-effected the whole story, and made themselves look bad and unfair in the process -- how many unsourced claims about Russian interference have they let stand? This was a fiasco all around. Cheers and solidarity.

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Re: Twitter still hasn't unlocked the New York Post's account

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Post by tenebrisalietum »

barumi wrote: post #377
razius wrote: post #277

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Except those are pretty transparent and non-political.

The only thing that makes Twitter's action as political is that we have a radical segment of the US's population which is hell-bent on supporting a smear campaign against a candidate they feel threatened about even though they are well aware the campaign is based on false or misleading info likely force-fed by a totalitarian regime. And to make matters worse, this radical group doesn't even care if the information is…

Haha. Glad you are talking about the political party other than the one I'm supporting.

Re: Twitter still hasn't unlocked the New York Post's account

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Post by tbenst »

lawnchair_larry wrote: post #557
tbenst wrote: post #97

I’m reminded by the stories in 2016 on how the Pope has endorsed Donald Trump. Was it true? Not in the slightest. And yet these stories got millions of impressions. Enabling the spread of harmful, false, foreign-planted propaganda to spread like a cancer in our democracy is worth taking a moral stand over. Actors that propagate such falsehoods have earned their punishment. Equivocation in this thread to NYTimes publi…

Great, but what does that have to do with the laptop, which came from Delaware and not Russia? You can’t spout a debunked conspiracy theory about Russian spies and then rail on about objective truth.

I was specifically referring to the Pope story in that case. I have no idea if the Hunter Biden laptop is actually real, but our default assumption should be skepticism: https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2020/10/24/hunter-bid...

Re: Twitter still hasn't unlocked the New York Post's account

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Post by ZeteticElench »

calvinmorrison wrote: post #352
ZeteticElench wrote: post #343

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" the NYPost has a narrative, with physical evidence, corrobrated by actual non-anonymous people alleging very bad things about a presidential candidate " Which is so obviously fake it isn't even funny. I'm getting very tired of the GOP's shameless tendency of creating controversies out of nothing. This is just another Benghazi or Hillary's Emails or Migrant Caravan.

is it fake or is it russian disinformation? I can't keep up with you types.

This is how stupid the GOP thinks you are:

Tucker Carlson Reports He Lost Only Copy of Documents That Nail Biden

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/10/tucker-carlson-lost-...

Re: Twitter still hasn't unlocked the New York Post's account

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Post by ZeteticElench »

secondcoming wrote: post #532
ZeteticElench wrote: post #343

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" the NYPost has a narrative, with physical evidence, corrobrated by actual non-anonymous people alleging very bad things about a presidential candidate " Which is so obviously fake it isn't even funny. I'm getting very tired of the GOP's shameless tendency of creating controversies out of nothing. This is just another Benghazi or Hillary's Emails or Migrant Caravan.

Fake? Didn't Biden's lawyer ask for the laptop back? If it was fake why did ask for a laptop that wasn't theirs?

This is how stupid the GOP thinks you are:

Tucker Carlson Reports He Lost Only Copy of Documents That Nail Biden

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/10/tucker-carlson-lost-...

Re: Twitter still hasn't unlocked the New York Post's account

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Post by xxpor »

damagednoob wrote: post #476
xxpor wrote: post #14

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You really, really do not. It's plenty easy to follow DJT, Cernovich, PJW, baseballcrank, Andy Ngo, etc.

I'm confused. Do you consider these centrists, you're listing here? Otherwise, it's kinda proving my point.

They're right leaning. You made it sound like it's harder to make your timeline right leaning than center leaning.

Re: Twitter still hasn't unlocked the New York Post's account

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Post by awerawerawrjhui »

RIMR wrote: post #326
tomcam wrote: post #169

Those of you who think locking the account was a good idea should remember you won’t always be in the majority.

If you think locking the account was a political decision, you're paranoid and wrong. They broke the rules on publishing hacked materials. They openly did this despite the rules. You want them exempted from the rules on political grounds, which is a problem.

Such nonsense. Everyone knows that if someone published "hacked" materials which were damaging to Trump then Twitter would laugh you out of the room if you suggested they block it.

This article has been suppressed for one reason and one reason alone: because it's potentially damaging to Joe Biden's election campaign. I know it, you know it, Twitter knows, everybody else knows, so stop pretending that this is about anything else because no-one is fooled.

Re: Twitter still hasn't unlocked the New York Post's account

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Post by rhizome »

free_rms wrote: post #485
rhizome wrote: post #324

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> Basically the social media company argument is... we think people are too dumb to figure out what is "real" or not so we are going to censor Why can't "we don't want this trash on our site" be the reason? It's "funny" how those who want to propagate banned material always cast themselves as some repressed group subject to the tyranny of government power. It can still be posted on Gab or Parler, right?

Is it 'trash' to be upset that Hunter Biden made 600k/yr from a no-show job that looks super crooked? I understand that it's politically not helpful at this particular moment, and that the Trump kids are worse, but none of that makes it false, and it doesn't make me 'trash' for not liking it.

>Is it 'trash' to be upset that Hunter Biden made 600k/yr from a no-show job that looks super crooked?

Yes, and it outs you as a blinkered rube. To be upset about Hunter Biden is 110% turnip truck.

It doesn't look super-crooked unless you take the word of certain interest-conflicted sources, because sinecures happen all the time, every day, for centuries, and $600K isn't that much for something like that in this day and age. It's simply not a big deal, and thus trash.

And yeah: now do Jared.

Re: Twitter still hasn't unlocked the New York Post's account

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Post by spicyramen »

This is unacceptable in any democracy or a so-called public platform. In Latin America there's many newspapers, compared to the US, there are newspapers that still publish very bloody images in the back-page (drug cartels hits, accidents, etc), others which publish naked girls, others about anarchism, religion, local news/events mostly free. As a citizen you understand the spectrum of what quality journalism is vs the kind of crap that comes in all those publications mentioned before. Government or official journalist groups don't block them, just because the information is mainly false. This is a basic value in a democracy. Problem I see is that online platforms want to fight disinformation as a problem when is not a problem is the way the world operates. Humans have something called intelligence and people can distinguish a quality publication vs another one and even if not, is ok to read all types of things (as long as they are within the law). Problem is that Google and Twitter just publish what fits in their agenda. (Check PragerU case vs Youtube)
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