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Twitter still hasn't unlocked the New York Post's account

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Re: Twitter still hasn't unlocked the New York Post's account

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Post by droffel »

rangoon626 wrote: post #322
droffel wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> scarily accurate As the saying goes, Zerohedge has predicted 28 of the last 4 recessions. They have a consistently bearish bias (which rarely seems to play out), and ties to the Russian state, which brings into question the motivations behind their criticisms of the US (not that I'm the biggest fan myself). All of that said, ZH introduced me to a lot of economic literature and concepts I likely wouldn't have been e…

They are, but when the FED keeps re-inflating bubbles and manipulating the markets, all conventional economic processes that they were using as sentinels were also getting disrupted.

> They are, but...

But nothing. In short, the claim of 'scarily accurate' is not true. There may be underlying reasons that their accuracy has issues, but their track record up to this point has been highly inaccurate.

Re: Twitter still hasn't unlocked the New York Post's account

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Post by calvinmorrison »

ZeteticElench wrote: post #343
calvinmorrison wrote: post #210

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A few months ago there was non-stop coverage of the president purportedly saying very mean things about soldiers. This was from an anonymous source. Even Bolton who is no fan of the president said that it didn't happen. It got 24/7 playtime by the media. Now on the other day the NYPost has a narrative, with physical evidence, corrobrated by actual non-anonymous people alleging very bad things about a presidential can…

" the NYPost has a narrative, with physical evidence, corrobrated by actual non-anonymous people alleging very bad things about a presidential candidate " Which is so obviously fake it isn't even funny. I'm getting very tired of the GOP's shameless tendency of creating controversies out of nothing. This is just another Benghazi or Hillary's Emails or Migrant Caravan.

is it fake or is it russian disinformation? I can't keep up with you types.

Re: Twitter still hasn't unlocked the New York Post's account

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Post by brynjolf »

dcolkitt wrote: post #303
wow_yes wrote: post #225

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We are on the right side of history - progress always is. People like me are much more trustworthy because we're not motivated by greed, but for the desire for a better world.

History has no shortage of horrific atrocities carried out by people with a genuine desire to remake a better world.

And vice versa, the side that has been Conservative continue to be on the wrong side of history over abs over again, yet never fail to say the other side is to blame.

Gay rights Women rights Liberty

Always one side saying let's wait a bit longer, let's listen to our lies for a bit longer.

Re: Twitter still hasn't unlocked the New York Post's account

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Post by pnw_hazor »

RIMR wrote: post #326
tomcam wrote: post #169

Those of you who think locking the account was a good idea should remember you won’t always be in the majority.

If you think locking the account was a political decision, you're paranoid and wrong. They broke the rules on publishing hacked materials. They openly did this despite the rules. You want them exempted from the rules on political grounds, which is a problem.

But there is no evidence anything was hacked.

Re: Twitter still hasn't unlocked the New York Post's account

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Post by tomschlick »

pat2man wrote: post #290
legitster wrote: post #91

What a hot mess. I am imagining those years of looking at terrible National Enquirer headlines at store checkouts. This kind of terrible reporting as always existed, but for some reason (luckily I guess) they never crossed over into national discourse the way that stories do online. I never begrudged the store for carrying them and selling them. If Wal-Mart suddenly felt the need to arbitrate on the accuracy of every…

Tabloid essentially make up stores, so I would say they fall into the "fiction" category. This story is essentially Russian propaganda designed to destabilize the US election. It's a whole different category of content.

The Director of National Intelligence (director for all US Intel Agencies) has said it is not Russian disinformation.

https://twitter.com/i/events/1318222118421590016

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Post by unethical_ban »

tomp wrote: post #64
quacked wrote: post #6

The Post publishes a lot of disreputable trash that's outright false or unproven, but more and more often, it seems that they release primary sources of information (especially videos) much earlier than other news outlets will, if the other news outlets do so at all. There have been multiple times when I've seen an insane video of something happening spreading around Twitter or WorldStar or some other "raw video" agg…

> The Post publishes a lot of disreputable trash that's outright false or unproven, but more and more often, it seems that they release primary sources of information (especially videos) much earlier than other news outlets will, if the other news outlets do so at all. Interesting... after reading this, I immediately thought: same as Zero Hedge (also often criticised). But then again, that shouldn't be a surprise - b…

>I prefer to assess the accuracy of news stories myself (usually considering the original source and how aligned their interests are with the published information)

There's your problem.

It's one thing to want the raw data out there if you want it, and more importantly, for others who are smarter than you to analyze it. Same principle with publishing methods and analysis of a scientific paper, or publishing source code you'll never look at to github: The fact that others can see it is important in itself.

That said, your comment borders too close to the Trumpian "experts know nothing, we can't trust the fourth estate" mentality. Actually, Trumpians don't know the term 'fourth estate'. Anyway. There is value in having institutions of trust investigate events and curate the story.

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Post by ZeteticElench »

SirensOfTitan wrote: post #268

Large tech companies like Twitter and Facebook and media alike have suddenly come up with all sorts of new standards to justify blocking or not reporting the Hunter Biden documents. I find it grotesque and completely inappropriate. Democracy is not a bunch of educated elites (and most of the "respected" media is white and ivy-league educated) telling the unwashed masses what to think and how to feel. From Mikhail Bak…

" Democracy is not a bunch of educated elites (and most of the "respected" media is white and ivy-league educated) telling the unwashed masses what to think and how to feel."

That is exactly what the fake Hunter Biden story is though. Blatant GOP propaganda released at a strategic moment to assist the re-election of Trump.

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Post by [deleted] »

calvinmorrison wrote: post #210
lr4444lr wrote: post #166

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You should check out the NYTimes' coverage of every rumor in Sarah Palin's family right after she was picked as the VP running mate in 2008.

A few months ago there was non-stop coverage of the president purportedly saying very mean things about soldiers. This was from an anonymous source. Even Bolton who is no fan of the president said that it didn't happen. It got 24/7 playtime by the media. Now on the other day the NYPost has a narrative, with physical evidence, corrobrated by actual non-anonymous people alleging very bad things about a presidential can…

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Re: Twitter still hasn't unlocked the New York Post's account

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Post by nostromo »

vmception wrote: post #174
commandlinefan wrote: post #79

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What makes you think anybody is insisting that Twitter has to carry whatever content? We're just calling them out for being biased.

I run into a "I'm pro free speech and am therefore offended when a platform censors something by nature of them censoring at all" comment practically everyday now people are just conflating the concepts, and I also would not be able to tell if they are consciously referring to the American constitution or a concept that goes far beyond that

Are you ok with Comcast and ISPs filtering your internet then? Forget about net neutrality -- they're a private company and it's their right to censor websites and traffic they don't like.

And since you're standing up for corporate civil rights, I'd love to hear your defense of the Citizens United decision while we're at it.

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