Vaccine hopes rise as Oxford jab prompts immune response among old and young

Post by aussiegeek » Tue, Oct 27, 2020, 10:07 AM UTC

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i haven't read through all the questions asked here, but yours is perhaps the least stupid i suspect you may already know the answer to your question; of course not everyone needs to be vaccinated - that's the job of any reasonably healthy immune system and this virus, which has not been properly isolated by the way, and that comes directly from the CDC, is not particularly dangerous, and that comes directly from the…

> this "pandemic", which by definition is not a pandemic > any thinking human being knows that masks are, at best, largely ineffective at preventing transmission, as is "social distancing" > it becomes very questionable whether there even is a "novel" corona virus or whether it's the flu You know, I live in Adelaide, where we haven't had a single locally-acquired case in several months. I've been wondering how almost…

Post by JW_00000 » Tue, Oct 27, 2020, 11:21 AM UTC

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This is only one of 11 vaccines now in phase III efficacy tests.[1] Six vaccines already have "partial approval", but those are the ones in Russia and China, which may or may not be working, and the governments decided to try anyway. All of those provoke an immune response. Whether it's enough of the right immune response is found out in phase III testing. Something is probably going to work. The big question is how…

Not happening, recent polls suggest that in Germany, 55% percent of the population is willing to get the vaccine. That isn't enough for herd immunity (at around 60%) and real vaccination rate will be even lower. There is also no chance in hell that Germans will allow a government-mandated vaccine. It's unconstitutional and there is heavy opposition to government-mandated anything throughout all of society. So we will…

Post by joe_momma » Tue, Oct 27, 2020, 12:04 PM UTC

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> in particular, but not limited to, the brain Judging from our response to Covid-19, if this had actually been the collectively-feared zombie virus, the pandemic would have been far worse than any fictional account has manage to capture so far.

How so? World War Z Walking Dead Shawn of the Dead * 28 Days Later The Last of Us What's worse than the above? * (ok maybe not this one)

Post by taneq » Tue, Oct 27, 2020, 12:32 PM UTC

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Did you experience temporary soreness near the location of the shot? Generalized tiredness, etc, that you might associate with a flu shot? How often are your follow-ups?

Yes. I had generalized pain in both arms after the first injection. Not the second. Nothing worse than you'd expect from another vaccination. Mild fever for 48 hours that meant I was too tired to exercise, but I was more than fine to work. (I'm a software engineer. I think if I had a more manual job, I would've struggled!) My follow-ups are every 2 months at a local hospital. They take general observations, ask about…

Post by celticninja » Tue, Oct 27, 2020, 12:55 PM UTC

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Given that immunity from infection is currently questionable your suggestion doesn't make sense. The reason the findings mentioned in this article are important is because the immune response seems to be stronger than that seen in people that have been infected and recovered. So this vaccine would be better at creating herd immunity than just allowing everyone to get infected. At the same time vaccinations will have…

How is immunity from infection questionable? We had 43 million cases and about a dozen or so reinfections. Not sure if confirmed reinfections reach the double digits yet.