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I am an Uighur who faced China’s concentration camps

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Re: I am an Uighur who faced China’s concentration camps

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Shared404 wrote: post #172
dang wrote: post #138

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Because it was lame. You've posted 4 of these. That's abusive so please stop.

Out of curiosity, is there a HN equivalent to removeddit? There have been situations where I would have liked to be able to see if something had been edited, or look and confirm what the past version of a comment had been.

Not that I know of, but there are lots of third-party HN projects out there.

We've sometimes thought about tracking and showing the edit history of HN comments, but I think this is one place where (let's call it) over-surveillance could lead to more harm than good. Certainly some users abuse editing, but there are also many cases where it's important to let people save face, give them an out, and so on. HN is supposed to be a community and it's important for communities to be forgiving. A certain degree of forgetfulness creates greater ease and freedom. No one wants to be around a superintelligent flaw-pointer-outer. So I think an edit history tracker would have unintended consequences and on balance is probably a bad idea.

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Post by spinny »

tracer4201 wrote: post #425
abc-xyz wrote: post #408

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Calling it the China/Chinese Virus helps continuously remind the world that China are 100% responsible for the pandemic. The only reason I’m voting for Trump is due to him being able/willing to stand up to China. It would be great if more politicians realized that China is an issue that will win/lose votes so I didn’t have to vote against the majority of my beliefs. As for arming Taiwan (I assume Hong Kong was a typo…

What does calling the virus the Chinese virus achieve? Does it solve the current crisis we are in? I’d like to go back to my original question - what is the substance or end result? And in your mind, what does it mean that Trump is willing to “stand up” to China? What is the net effect or outcome? Last I checked, there are over 200,000 Americans dead from the virus. The American President initially denied it was a re…

who do you think is more likely to take a bribe from Chy-na?? Trump or Biden? Trump already has more money than many of the establishment politicians. Biden didn't come from a wealthy family but is dirty rich now. Your perception of reality is heavily distorted by the leftist media that an an interest in keeping themselves in Chy-na. Bloomberg admitted the self-censorship not long ago. Any media outlet with interest in staying in Chy-na is morally compromised

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Post by spinny »

ReactiveJelly wrote: post #457
marsrover wrote: post #364

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One of the reasons I voted for him this time, even though I didn't in 2016.

Maybe next year Trump will break up my gay marriage and make it illegal for me to get the medicine I'm on. Nothing like a little down-home American human rights abuses. He can't even condemn a terrorist group when asked directly to.

You gay marriage is safe, your medicine will probably become cheaper. He has condemned the antifa scum plenty of times

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Post by spinny »

aphextron wrote: post #323
WillPostForFood wrote: post #255

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People want the information, and if they had it many would adjust their buying behavior. I see the "where is this made" question on Amazon products all the time. Even if it didn't make a difference, having the manufacturing origin, and shipping origin clearly labeled would be a good start. https://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Aamazon.com+%22where+i...

Information doesn't matter when you have no other choice. There's practically zero affordable consumer products still made in the US or Europe. Just try finding any form of electronic made outside of Asia. It's nonexistent.

Chy-na imports a large portion of it's food supply, and the recent floods have destroy a large portion of it's own supply. people don't eat consumer electronics.

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Post by spinny »

cameronh90 wrote: post #287
mkolodny wrote: post #206

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What country's politicians have publicly opposed this?

UK did earlier this year, and threatened sanctions. China called it fake news. Not much has happened since.

Good thing that twitter pretends to be the arbiter of truth and fact check every world that comes out of a republican's mouth. meanwhile accusations from the ccp's minister of propaganda run rampant

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Post by dang »

agent00f wrote: post #517
phobosanomaly wrote: post #509

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You're actually in a better position than you think. Check out the history of Brown Moses, and Bellingcat: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eliot_Higgins "Higgins' analyses of Syrian weapons, which began as a hobby out of his home in his spare time, are frequently cited by the press and human rights groups and have led to parliamentary discussion." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bellingcat " Bellingcat (stylized as bell¿…

> Higgins' analyses of Syrian weapons The ironic and actually instructive part of this is that his work was used to rationalize the Syrian war for the west, which has left an absolutely devastating trail of misery for countless millions of Syrian people. Even more instructive is that the people responsibly for that misery all still pretend to be the good guys.

I appreciate the contrary view that you're representing but at the same time your account is badly violating the HN guidelines against using this site primarily for political battle, and you're also posting in the flamewar style which is not ok here. We ban accounts that do that, regardless of what they're battling for or against, or how good or bad it is.

If you'd please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and use HN as intended, we'd appreciate it. The intended use is this: primarily for intellectual curiosity, only secondarily for politics, and then only in the form of curious and thoughtful conversation—not smiting enemies.

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Post by dang »

skeptictw wrote: post #69

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That's not an accurate statement.

Such perceptions are in the eye of the beholder. People with the opposite views to yours see HN in exactly the opposite light. See for example https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20384662. What's astonishing is how precisely complaints like yours and theirs mirror each other. The mechanism and the emotions are identical—they're just applying different filters. But the underlying data stream of posts flowing through HN remains the same.

Lots of previous explanations about this phenomenon may be found via https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sor....

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Post by p3opl3 »

The title of the article should really be changed to something like:

"How to set yourself up as the great evil that the world needs to challenge."

Unlike North Korea - obliterating China would have huge financial benefits for the rich and war mongers.

One step closer to mutually assured destruction folks - that's all I'm saying. They Super AI couldn't come soon enough frankly.

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Post by phobosanomaly »

franklampard wrote: post #569
phobosanomaly wrote: post #503

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"How China Slowed Coronavirus: Lockdowns, Surveillance, Enforcers" https://www.wsj.com/articles/how-china-slowed-coronavirus-lo... " China, Desperate to Stop Coronavirus, Turns Neighbor Against Neighbor " https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/03/business/china-coronaviru...

Which part is "Draconian"?

I guess that's relatively subjective, and depends on what you or I feel is draconian.

I might feel something is a little over-the-top, but you might feel it's just fine. You might feel something is a little over-the-top, but I might feel it's just fine.

So, I guess my only answer would be that you would have to read the articles and decide for yourself.

You may have a different tolerance for the techniques described than I do.

"In the eastern province of Jiangsu, quarantine turned to imprisonment after authorities used metal poles to barricade shut the door of a family recently returned from Wuhan."

"Authorities have used computerized systems that track ID cards — which must be used to take most long-distance transport and stay in hotels — to round up people from Wuhan."

For example, I find this to be a bit much. I do, however concede that it works. You may be perfectly fine with it.

I find the prison camps in Xinjiang to be a little draconian. Plenty of other people feel that it's a wonderful idea.

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