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Country of origin is often not stated on product listings, and it's not clear what it should say for things made partially in multiple countries.
Do some research then. It's not impossible to figure out where things are coming from.
I am an Uighur who faced China’s concentration camps
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#282China has built almost 400 new camps since 2017, while new testimonies have emerged alleging slave labour, forced sterilisations and organ harvesting taking place inside the camps too.
https://www.npr.org/2020/09/18/914465793/ice-a-whistleblower...
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As long as 95% of the people in the US keep on buying items with their wallets open, and we're distracted with our own internal strife, what hope is there to counter this? Our leadership certainly isn't up to standing against this sort of thing these days.
Say what you want about Trump, who is a completely disgusting individual, but I have seen more progress this presidential term in this regard than ever before.
> Xi "explained to Trump why he was basically building concentration camps in Xinjiang," Bolton wrote, citing the interpreter's account. The interpreter added that "Trump said that Xi should go ahead with building the camps, which Trump thought was exactly the right thing to do," according to the book.
> Bolton also wrote in the book that Matthew Pottinger, a retired US Marine and the current deputy national security adviser, "told me that Trump said something very similar during his November 2017 trip to China."
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-china-detention-camp-x...
Make no mistake about it, Trump's anti-China rhetoric arises purely out of Xenophobia, not concern for Uighurs or human rights.
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Perhaps you should think about why, when faced with evidence of an atrocity, your reaction is not "this is horrible and should be stopped" but "look at all these hypocrites denouncing the horrible thing". It seems to me a serious moral miscalibration.
Your reaction is "this is horrible and should be stopped" and that's what makes you susceptible to anti-China hysteria. This is just "we don't negotiate with terrorists" in another context. Apparently anyone uncooperative with American business interests in the Middle East turned out to be a terrorist who needs to be bombed/assassinated/coup-ed. America has sanctioned North Korea for going on 50 years now, has that p…
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#285It's really interesting to me that people like this are actually able to eventually get out through legal means. Does China just not give a fuck what anyone thinks, knowing that there will never be any actual action against them ?
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Is that even possible? What is made in the US that doesn't buy raw materials or partially assembled materials from china?
Sounds like there might be demand for some certification that looks into the whole supply chain of a company, and can offer levels of “Made in the US” certification, bronze, silver, gold, platinum for 100% end to end. Similarly, it would be great for an estimate and certification of carbon emissions of the supply chain for each product.
However, there's MANY countries that are NOT China. We could instead certify products against supporting bad regimes, and using slave / prison labor in the supply chain.
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Pay your taxes so that your military can keep an eye on the assholes who do this, and so that UN may offer some form of asylum to their victims. Vote for politicians that oppose this shit publicly. Explain to your kids why this is wrong.
What country's politicians have publicly opposed this?
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Exactly. The problem is, the West gets a moral high ground and even if they get criticism for their actions, the highest repercussions they encounter is "a slap to the wrist".
West gets moral high ground not because it's blameless - it isn't - but because it's faults are smaller. It could be counterproductive to judge something on a boolean scale - "perfect" vs. "not perfect so perfectly bad". West is much more transparent than non-West, so we have better chance to differentiate good parts from bad parts. If we don't have such opportunity, and we consistently get burned with bad parts, we'…
https://www.npr.org/2020/09/18/914465793/ice-a-whistleblower...
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I tried raising awareness about China's bullshit at work once, and was met with awkward silence and was later told in private that I came off as ignorant/immature. All because I said China should be regarded by the West as an enemy/hostile state. Hell, it's the one thing I can side with the current administration on. To me China is not much different than pre-WWII Germany: over-the-top authoritarian, has ambitions to…
Honestly, I see us heading towards a world war... w/ water becoming precious commodity - I can't see who's gonna win, or even what the pairings might be... Maybe EU, USA, Canada, India, Israel, Japan vs China, Russia, N. Korea, Iran, Saudia Arabia? Except there's some racism/xenophobia between Russia, Islam, China, so maybe not... But a lot of those places lack water, so that could be motivating factor for more strif…