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Re: YouTube-dl is now part of GitHub/dmca.git

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Post by larose »

judge2020 wrote: post #26
fireattack wrote: post #12

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Just curious, why is this possible with an unmerged PR? Just a weird setup on GitHub's end?

I think it's because GitHub wants to allow repo maintainers to merge in PRs without them having to add separate remotes themselves, ie `git remote add` isn't required to `git merge`. This basically means that any content can be injected into anyone's GH repo (since PRs can't be turned off), but really only in terms of being able to view it on the GitHub website. To give an example, pull 437 on torvalds/linux[0] hasn'…

Indeed. And you don't even need to create a PR to "inject" commits into a GitHub repo. You just need to fork it and push to your fork. See https://mathieularose.com/github-commit-injection

Re: YouTube-dl is now part of GitHub/dmca.git

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Post by corobo »

wizzwizz4 wrote: post #172
tdrgabi wrote: post #151

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Isn't that evidence for the case though? youtube-dl has code to see through obfuscation methods which are only available to specific YouTube partners. If you're a tool for downloading open, not copyrighted videos, why do you need that?

youtube-dl is not, strictly speaking, a downloading tool. It's an access tool. You want to access YouTube videos through an alternate client, as is your legal right in the European Union ? youtube-dl is a useful library for the job. You can use youtube-dl to download videos, but the intended use here is clearly for watching them. Just because syringe needles are tested on (and advertised for) human skin and are also…

Come off it, the other part of the name is "dl"

I use YouTube-dl as much as the next guy for lawful reasons but these HN comments saying it's not for YouTube and it's not for downloading is silly. It's literally in the name.

Please remember that to reverse this YouTube-dl needs to go through a court. Courts are not code that can be tricked by clever wording. If anything you'll be trying to describe what it is to some old grandma who hasn't got a clue what GitHub is never mind convincing them this software isn't for downloading YouTube videos.

By all means everyone go on with coming up with clever interpretations of the law but you're just farting into the wind

P.s downvoting my comments doesn't change the way the law works either, but if it helps you feel good have at it :)

Re: YouTube-dl is now part of GitHub/dmca.git

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Post by justaj »

hk__2 wrote: post #195
DavideNL wrote: post #145

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Would it not be possible to move to some decentralized Github alternative?

You can’t decentralise issues and pull-requests. Edited: as pointed-out, Fossil supports decentralized issues (but not PRs). However, Fossil is a totally different system than Git.

It's amazing that no one has thought to do this yet considering the checkered history of GitHub's compliance with DMCA takedowns.

Re: YouTube-dl is now part of GitHub/dmca.git

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Post by corobo »

saagarjha wrote: post #39
gizmo686 wrote: post #33

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And what should we ask for? There is stuff to complain about with the DMCA, but the core process is reasonable. Someone claims copyright infringement by a user, and the website takes the content down. The user claims no copyright infringement, the website restores the content. The website is immune from liability, the alleged copyright owner can settle things in court with the user if they want to.

The problem is that there is no penalty for fraudulently issuing claims.

Other than it being a felony in the US to issue a false claim with a jail time of up to 5 years aye

Re: YouTube-dl is now part of GitHub/dmca.git

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Post by dredmorbius »

dredmorbius wrote: post #117
Bjartr wrote: post #65

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IANAL, but as far as I recall, a site receiving a DMCA notice must immediately remove the stated content. The person who put the content up may then file a counter-notice, which, if uncontested may then be followed by reinstating the content. If contested, the process moves into the courtroom.

False in this case. The 17 USC (2)(c)(1)(C) safe-harbour protections apply only to hosting of infringing works, and neither youtube-dl nor its test suites infringe on any RIAA or member copyrights as averred in RIAA's notice. https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/17/512 The RIAA's letter does not claim infringement within the text of youtube-dl source or test suites , though it tries hard to appear so, but rather a…

NB: I've adapted this comment as an article here:

https://joindiaspora.com/posts/808cf690f8e801381778002590d8e...

Re: YouTube-dl is now part of GitHub/dmca.git

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Post by [deleted] »

echelon wrote: post #63
AdamJacobMuller wrote: post #25

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This is hilarious, well done. I realized something while :+1:-ing your PR: I was thinking about how digg deleted my account over posting the AACS key, I really couldn't care less if Microsoft deleted my account over it. Very interesting considering that even just 2 years ago I never would have done this for fear of my account being deleted. All of my work and personal projects are moved to gitlab (the CI/Kubernetes/e…

Microsoft is losing the good will they've worked so hard to rebuild. Microsoft employees, managers, Satya: do you see what you're doing? I love the direction you've taken over the past five years, but bowing to the RIAA and attempting to disrupt an innocuous tool are horrible decisions. It's a chilling note, and everyone involved in tech can hear it. Are you telling us Github is not a safe place to develop software a…

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Re: YouTube-dl is now part of GitHub/dmca.git

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Post by anticensor »

justinclift wrote: post #102
ab_testing wrote: post #73

I think the long term solution for this problem is the developers of open source software like the bit torrent client, youtube-dl and other similar software will have to host their code outside of the reach of DMCA regualation. That will usually mean something like Github like site hosted in Russia, China or some other bloc where DMCA does not apply. Right now, lots of users in the US scientific community use Scihub…

> outside of the reach of DMCA regualation. What's the latency to the Moon again? :)

2.5s is the minimum roundtrip. Add server and satellite hops and you get something closer to 3s minimum. Every time.
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