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YouTube-dl is now part of GitHub/dmca.git

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Re: YouTube-dl is now part of GitHub/dmca.git

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Post by airstrike »

kamyarg wrote: post #23

Cloned locally, was sad when the original repo was taken down. Some things actually get worst when you try to prevent people from doing them, hopefully some people realize this. Can someone remind me which music videos they did not want people to download please?

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Re: YouTube-dl is now part of GitHub/dmca.git

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Post by echelon »

AdamJacobMuller wrote: post #25
Stephen304 wrote: post #3

Heh, I didn't expect to get much attention for this. I thought it would be funny to push a merge commit between the 2 repo's latest commits. As a result, the git history is accessible from the dmca repo if you know the commit hashes. Since I didn't rebase, all the commit hashes were preserved with signatures. Another fun discovery is that deleting my fork of github/dmca didn't affect the PR like I thought it would, s…

This is hilarious, well done. I realized something while :+1:-ing your PR: I was thinking about how digg deleted my account over posting the AACS key, I really couldn't care less if Microsoft deleted my account over it. Very interesting considering that even just 2 years ago I never would have done this for fear of my account being deleted. All of my work and personal projects are moved to gitlab (the CI/Kubernetes/e…

Microsoft is losing the good will they've worked so hard to rebuild.

Microsoft employees, managers, Satya: do you see what you're doing? I love the direction you've taken over the past five years, but bowing to the RIAA and attempting to disrupt an innocuous tool are horrible decisions. It's a chilling note, and everyone involved in tech can hear it.

Are you telling us Github is not a safe place to develop software anymore? Because I'll believe it and go elsewhere.

Siding with the RIAA and bringing engineers' Github accounts into compliance will tell us who your real customers and allies are.

Don't side with regressive legal trolls that bring zero benefit to the world.

Re: YouTube-dl is now part of GitHub/dmca.git

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Post by Bjartr »

echelon wrote: post #63
AdamJacobMuller wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is hilarious, well done. I realized something while :+1:-ing your PR: I was thinking about how digg deleted my account over posting the AACS key, I really couldn't care less if Microsoft deleted my account over it. Very interesting considering that even just 2 years ago I never would have done this for fear of my account being deleted. All of my work and personal projects are moved to gitlab (the CI/Kubernetes/e…

Microsoft is losing the good will they've worked so hard to rebuild. Microsoft employees, managers, Satya: do you see what you're doing? I love the direction you've taken over the past five years, but bowing to the RIAA and attempting to disrupt an innocuous tool are horrible decisions. It's a chilling note, and everyone involved in tech can hear it. Are you telling us Github is not a safe place to develop software a…

IANAL, but as far as I recall, a site receiving a DMCA notice must immediately remove the stated content. The person who put the content up may then file a counter-notice, which, if uncontested may then be followed by reinstating the content. If contested, the process moves into the courtroom.

Re: YouTube-dl is now part of GitHub/dmca.git

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Post by gizmo686 »

geongeorgek wrote: post #59

Out of curiosity, If I were running my own git server can I delete a PR completely?

Git itself doesn't have a concept of pull requests; you are expected to just send a request for someone with access to the remote repository to do the pull themselves. Someone with access to the remote repository would need to take some action themselves before anything is actually downloaded to it.

Once the contents of the PR are in the remote repository, it is possible to completely delete them. First, you need to make them unreachable by any reference (which is to say, not in the history of any branch or tag). Then you can run the git garbage collector to actually delete the commits associated with the PR.

I don't think there is any way to tell the garbage collector to prune specific commits; so you will also loose any other orphan commits; but that probably isn't a problem.

Re: YouTube-dl is now part of GitHub/dmca.git

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Post by leeoniya »

gizmo686 wrote: post #33
Iv wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Note that a hack is not a fix. All of you, write to your representatives about that if you care. In EU when they were going to put some similar laws we all organized and wrote massively to the parliament and they backed down. It is a lot of effort but it works.

And what should we ask for? There is stuff to complain about with the DMCA, but the core process is reasonable. Someone claims copyright infringement by a user, and the website takes the content down. The user claims no copyright infringement, the website restores the content. The website is immune from liability, the alleged copyright owner can settle things in court with the user if they want to.

> There is stuff to complain about with the DMCA, but the core process is reasonable.

it absolutely is not in any way reasonable.

you must take down the content without question and then, after filing a counter-notice wait 10-14 days minimum before it can be restored [1]:

"After a counter notice has been received, a service provider must wait 10-14 days before they can reactivate the claimed infringing content."

frivolous complaints can completely cripple a business with little risk to the supposed claimant.

https://odinlaw.com/what-is-a-dmca-counter-notice/

Re: YouTube-dl is now part of GitHub/dmca.git

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Post by scollet »

jjeaff wrote: post #47
gizmo686 wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And what should we ask for? There is stuff to complain about with the DMCA, but the core process is reasonable. Someone claims copyright infringement by a user, and the website takes the content down. The user claims no copyright infringement, the website restores the content. The website is immune from liability, the alleged copyright owner can settle things in court with the user if they want to.

You should ask for immunity for tools that could potentially be used to infringe copyright, but that are not actually infringing copyright. If guns don't kill people, people kill people, then certainly congress can accept that software doesn't pirate copyrighted works, people pirate copyrighted works.

I get the analogy, but guns are typically purposed for lethality.

Software is not typically purposed for piracy.

Maybe "trying to hit someone with your car"? Not sure.

Re: YouTube-dl is now part of GitHub/dmca.git

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Post by Aeolun »

jcranmer wrote: post #54
saagarjha wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Taking down GitHub would instantly make millions of developers at thousands of companies unable to do their work.

I am well aware of that. But RIAA likely doesn't care one iota about that damage. The injunction they'd write would be along the lines of: "It's necessary that the entirety of GitHub be shut down until this case is decided. As noted here, they have persistently failed to adhere to our DMCA take-down notices, and continue to knowingly host content that circumvents our copyright protection schemes. Furthermore, it is n…

If we cannot shut down criminal banks because they are too big to fail. Then we certainly cannot shut down Github.
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