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Re: YouTube-dl is now part of GitHub/dmca.git

#31

Post by fireattack »

RulerOf wrote: post #22
fireattack wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just curious, why is this possible with an unmerged PR? Just a weird setup on GitHub's end?

There's a lot of reasons it's possible, but the one that sticks out is that the repo owner needs to be able to modify the commit before the PR is merged. AFAIK, the way that's done is by incorporating the remote repo's commit history into the destination repo underneath a pr-specific branch, which naturally brings all of the commits themselves into the repo's git database.

Follow up question, are these commits or pr-specific branch accessible in target repo's `git` (not GitHub)?

Re: YouTube-dl is now part of GitHub/dmca.git

#32

Post by Stephen304 »

AdamJacobMuller wrote: post #25
Stephen304 wrote: post #3

Heh, I didn't expect to get much attention for this. I thought it would be funny to push a merge commit between the 2 repo's latest commits. As a result, the git history is accessible from the dmca repo if you know the commit hashes. Since I didn't rebase, all the commit hashes were preserved with signatures. Another fun discovery is that deleting my fork of github/dmca didn't affect the PR like I thought it would, s…

This is hilarious, well done. I realized something while :+1:-ing your PR: I was thinking about how digg deleted my account over posting the AACS key, I really couldn't care less if Microsoft deleted my account over it. Very interesting considering that even just 2 years ago I never would have done this for fear of my account being deleted. All of my work and personal projects are moved to gitlab (the CI/Kubernetes/e…

Haha thanks, yeah I do wonder whether my account may be impacted. Best case they just delete the PR and garbage collect the repo. Worst case I get the final push to use gitlab.

Re: YouTube-dl is now part of GitHub/dmca.git

#33

Post by gizmo686 »

Iv wrote: post #6
mmastrac wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is such a great hack. I approved the PR, naturally.

Note that a hack is not a fix. All of you, write to your representatives about that if you care. In EU when they were going to put some similar laws we all organized and wrote massively to the parliament and they backed down. It is a lot of effort but it works.

And what should we ask for?

There is stuff to complain about with the DMCA, but the core process is reasonable.

Someone claims copyright infringement by a user, and the website takes the content down.

The user claims no copyright infringement, the website restores the content.

The website is immune from liability, the alleged copyright owner can settle things in court with the user if they want to.

Re: YouTube-dl is now part of GitHub/dmca.git

#34

Post by jcranmer »

AdamJacobMuller wrote: post #25
Stephen304 wrote: post #3

Heh, I didn't expect to get much attention for this. I thought it would be funny to push a merge commit between the 2 repo's latest commits. As a result, the git history is accessible from the dmca repo if you know the commit hashes. Since I didn't rebase, all the commit hashes were preserved with signatures. Another fun discovery is that deleting my fork of github/dmca didn't affect the PR like I thought it would, s…

This is hilarious, well done. I realized something while :+1:-ing your PR: I was thinking about how digg deleted my account over posting the AACS key, I really couldn't care less if Microsoft deleted my account over it. Very interesting considering that even just 2 years ago I never would have done this for fear of my account being deleted. All of my work and personal projects are moved to gitlab (the CI/Kubernetes/e…

> I know a sample size of 1 has an effectively 100% error rate, but, I think Microsoft is losing mindshare with GitHub. Stuff like this doesn't help. I could see a small company like GitLab needing to toe the DMCA line, but, Microsoft has the deep pockets and could have built some major community will here by handling this better. Unfortunate that they didn't.

If MS didn't comply with the DMCA takedown notice, then the RIAA could go to court and get an injunction to force it down. Depending on how spiteful the RIAA and the judge are feeling, the injunction could be worded to take down the entirety of GitHub over a single repository. And the impact of actions like these is to make it more likely that such an expansive injunction is sought or granted.

Re: YouTube-dl is now part of GitHub/dmca.git

#35

Post by gamblor956 »

userbinator wrote: post #18
gamblor956 wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The end result will be GitHub taking down this repo and possibly blocking PRs. Congratulations on making life difficult for other people.

Congratulations on making life difficult for other people. Tell that to the RIAA... It's funny to see the Streisand Effect happen with this one.

US copyright law has teeth for stuff like this.

If the RIAA goes after the OP for statutory damages, he's basically fucked for life. And they love to make examples of people. Did everybody forget Kazaa and Limewire?

Re: YouTube-dl is now part of GitHub/dmca.git

#36

Post by jcranmer »

shmerl wrote: post #7

I hope they did counter claim? RIAA should get a strong kick for this.

The history of that github repo shows that counterclaims would be listed in that particular repo, along with the original DMCA request. There is no PR for a counterclaim for youtube-dl as of this comment.

Re: YouTube-dl is now part of GitHub/dmca.git

#37

Post by gizmo686 »

fireattack wrote: post #31
RulerOf wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's a lot of reasons it's possible, but the one that sticks out is that the repo owner needs to be able to modify the commit before the PR is merged. AFAIK, the way that's done is by incorporating the remote repo's commit history into the destination repo underneath a pr-specific branch, which naturally brings all of the commits themselves into the repo's git database.

Follow up question, are these commits or pr-specific branch accessible in target repo's `git` (not GitHub)?

Yes.

You can get it with: git fetch refs/pull//head

My git config has the alias:

  pr = !f() { git fetch $1 refs/pull/$2/head:pr/$1/$2; } ; f
which will create a local branch corresponding to the provide PR. This is useful for evaluating large PRs that would be difficult to fully evaluate with just the online UI.

Re: YouTube-dl is now part of GitHub/dmca.git

#38

Post by saagarjha »

jcranmer wrote: post #34
AdamJacobMuller wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is hilarious, well done. I realized something while :+1:-ing your PR: I was thinking about how digg deleted my account over posting the AACS key, I really couldn't care less if Microsoft deleted my account over it. Very interesting considering that even just 2 years ago I never would have done this for fear of my account being deleted. All of my work and personal projects are moved to gitlab (the CI/Kubernetes/e…

> I know a sample size of 1 has an effectively 100% error rate, but, I think Microsoft is losing mindshare with GitHub. Stuff like this doesn't help. I could see a small company like GitLab needing to toe the DMCA line, but, Microsoft has the deep pockets and could have built some major community will here by handling this better. Unfortunate that they didn't. If MS didn't comply with the DMCA takedown notice, then t…

RIAA taking down all of GitHub would instantly pit them against all of Microsoft, and make every developer who already hates their guts to pick up the pitchforks and march. They won't try doing it.

Re: YouTube-dl is now part of GitHub/dmca.git

#39

Post by saagarjha »

gizmo686 wrote: post #33
Iv wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Note that a hack is not a fix. All of you, write to your representatives about that if you care. In EU when they were going to put some similar laws we all organized and wrote massively to the parliament and they backed down. It is a lot of effort but it works.

And what should we ask for? There is stuff to complain about with the DMCA, but the core process is reasonable. Someone claims copyright infringement by a user, and the website takes the content down. The user claims no copyright infringement, the website restores the content. The website is immune from liability, the alleged copyright owner can settle things in court with the user if they want to.

The problem is that there is no penalty for fraudulently issuing claims.

Re: YouTube-dl is now part of GitHub/dmca.git

#40

Post by orbitingpluto »

freeone3000 wrote: post #28
orbitingpluto wrote: post #13

The RIAA will have to create a takedown notice to takedown their takedown notice, invalidating the former takedown notice?

No, issuing a DMCA claim does not invalidate former claims. The system always works the way a rational human would expect.

"The system always works the way a rational human would expect."

We all wish, we all wish.

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