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I am an Uighur who faced China’s concentration camps

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Re: I am an Uighur who faced China’s concentration camps

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> We can't do anything decisive to help the Uighurs without ripping apart Chinese sovereignty and causing even more collateral damage, so the best we can do is once again find our principles Yes we can. Boycott CCP controlled businesses, their manufactured goods and services. Ensure strict sanctions are levied on CCP members. Ban travel of CCP members to and from countries that respect the rule of Law. But nope. We w…

> Boycott CCP controlled businesses, their manufactured goods and services. Ensure strict sanctions are levied on CCP members. Ban travel of CCP members to and from countries that respect the rule of Law. That's typically not worked in other countries. For example, see Russia, which has been under exactly those kinds of targeted sanctions and yet which continues to openly murder opponents of the Putin regime across t…

> That's typically not worked in other countries. For example, see Russia, which has been under exactly those kinds of targeted sanctions and yet which continues to openly murder opponents of the Putin regime across the globe.

Russia is almost a semi-hermit State unlike China. Russia was never an "export powerhouse". China is. Russia doesn't have the kind of population China has. Russian population is less than half of USA. Sanctions don't have a major impact on Russia as US was never its major trading partner. But sanctions on China will be a huge blow as US was China's main trading partner. You can't compare Russia and China. They are not the same.

Re: I am an Uighur who faced China’s concentration camps

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CCP must not go unpunished. The world needs to stand up to their lone wolf style. If we do not stand up against CCP now it will only embolden the evil. Vote with your wallets. Avoid buying China made products. Pressure/ Make laws for retailers to enforce Country of Origin information for each and every product especially Amazon. Amazon is flooded with cheap Chinese products almost certainly made in inhumane condition…

Vote for politicians who make politics instead of privatizing problems?

Re: I am an Uighur who faced China’s concentration camps

#533

CCP must not go unpunished. The world needs to stand up to their lone wolf style. If we do not stand up against CCP now it will only embolden the evil. Vote with your wallets. Avoid buying China made products. Pressure/ Make laws for retailers to enforce Country of Origin information for each and every product especially Amazon. Amazon is flooded with cheap Chinese products almost certainly made in inhumane condition…

Unfortunately, I don't see that the West, and the United States in particular, is in a position to do anything in the near future. China seems to know that. They have by-and-large solved their Coronavirus problem months ago (with some pretty draconian methods), but the West is still reeling. The US is heading into a pretty contentious election, nobody is sure whether or not we're on the brink of a recession, internat…

> nobody is sure whether or not we're on the brink of a recession

https://www.npr.org/2020/06/08/872470104/economists-announce...

> If the CCP took Taiwan right now

https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/4034710

Re: I am an Uighur who faced China’s concentration camps

#535

CCP must not go unpunished. The world needs to stand up to their lone wolf style. If we do not stand up against CCP now it will only embolden the evil. Vote with your wallets. Avoid buying China made products. Pressure/ Make laws for retailers to enforce Country of Origin information for each and every product especially Amazon. Amazon is flooded with cheap Chinese products almost certainly made in inhumane condition…

The US must not go unpunished. The world needs to stand up to their lone wolf style. If we do not stand up against the US now it will only embolden the evil. Vote with your wallets. Avoid using US made products and services. Pressure/ Make laws for retailers to enforce Country of Origin information for each and every product. The web is flooded with services made in the US that spread their propaganda (antivax and QAnon started in the anglosphere) made to keep their population feeble and powerless (some of them even die because they cannot afford insuline). The US, Trump and their 2 party system must not be emboldened any further.

Re: I am an Uighur who faced China’s concentration camps

#536

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The point bring that your original comparison is a bad analogy. It should be obvious to you that something that effects millions of people is much worse than the CIA thing that only effected a couple hundred.

I didn't make an analogy. I asked a straightforward question. I'm unclear why you or anyone else might be creating analogies in your heads. It's even less clear why you want me to have made them.

Ok, so then you agree that it is silly to bring up anything to do with the CIA, when China has infringed on the rights of millions of people?

Re: I am an Uighur who faced China’s concentration camps

#537

CCP must not go unpunished. The world needs to stand up to their lone wolf style. If we do not stand up against CCP now it will only embolden the evil. Vote with your wallets. Avoid buying China made products. Pressure/ Make laws for retailers to enforce Country of Origin information for each and every product especially Amazon. Amazon is flooded with cheap Chinese products almost certainly made in inhumane condition…

You are absolutely correct.

The CCP gains legitimacy from brining prosperity to the Chinese people. This prosperity is off the back of human rights violations, bullying other countries and corporate espionage. It is time we boycotted China. The whole world must turn its back on China to show this behaviour is not acceptable. It may hurt in the short term, but will benefit all of humanity in the long term.

Re: I am an Uighur who faced China’s concentration camps

#538
There is one thing that confuses me:

>After an 18-month legal struggle, he was granted political asylum in the Netherlands, while his wife and children are living safely in Turkey.

So after such inhuman tortures living safely with his wife and kids in Turkey was not enough for him? Why on earth did he leave his family for the Netherlands? And why there was the 18-month legal struggle?

I believe the struggle was because judges are not as easily fooled as the general audience. They need real proofs, not just his own words and some scars on his hand.

All this looks very much like he just invented this horror story to get a refugee status in a rich European country. As for me, I'd rather believe the Chinese government who says it is fake news than this Kazakh-Uighur.

Another question: why not Kazakhstan if he's half Kazakh? Why first Turkey and then the Netherlands?

Re: I am an Uighur who faced China’s concentration camps

#539

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It's almost impossible. Even iPhones are made in China.

Not sure why you say “even iPhones” as this kind of high-end tech is likely among the most difficult to manufacture outside of China. But even iPhones are starting to get manufactured in India, and you also have other smartphones being manufactured in Vietnam (I believe this include the new Pixel). Trump’s China tariffs have already forced many companies to move to Vietnam/India/Mexico/etc. The few remaining are like…

> Not sure why you say “even iPhones”

Because Apple is a trillion-dollar company.

Re: I am an Uighur who faced China’s concentration camps

#540
I think it would be really important for a good book to come out and to be publicized tremendously, like The Archipelago of Gulag or If This Is a Man, that would capture the public conscience to what is happening. Unfortunately written in the first person.
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