Since I'm American and not acquainted with "Varsity", any comments from anyone here about how reputable or not reputable it is would be appreciated.
I am an Uighur who faced China’s concentration camps
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Re: I am an Uighur who faced China’s concentration camps
#492Earlier quoted context omitted.
No need for your little perspective. The US had started numerous wars that had killed, crippled, impoverished etc countless people.
War is a different topic, if you keep changing (the topic) no discussion is possible. Which might be your goal. Also China has gone to war with and enslaved as many people as they had the capacity for. Pretending otherwise is weird.
>"Which might be your goal"
I have no goals. I am on HN just to exchange opinions when I need a 5 min rest from a programming.
>"Also China has gone to war with and enslaved as many people as they had the capacity for. Pretending otherwise is weird."
Oh. I am sure thy did. But the end result is what counts. They sure treated their own citizens like crap. But in business of f..g up other countries I think they're bit behind comparatively. Might change in a future so we will see / or not.
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#493Earlier quoted context omitted.
Here’s an incomplete list of things Trump has done to stand up to China. I challenge everyone to name a single person (or country, or continent) who’s done more than him. - He refers to the Wuhan Virus as the China/Chinese Virus (CCP is trying very hard from distancing themselves from responsibility; they won’t even let us into Wuhan to investigate). - He started a trade war with China, which has forced companies to…
Serious question - which of these advance American national interests or prevent human rights abuses? The first item in your list is President Trump calling the virus the Chinese virus. Aside from maybe bringing his supporters as a rallying cry, what does that actually achieve? It feels more like hollow political rhetoric and not something that delivers any kind of results. What do the arms sales achieve? Is it merel…
The 5G Ban gives other local companies the leg up.
Re: I am an Uighur who faced China’s concentration camps
#494CCP must not go unpunished. The world needs to stand up to their lone wolf style. If we do not stand up against CCP now it will only embolden the evil. Vote with your wallets. Avoid buying China made products. Pressure/ Make laws for retailers to enforce Country of Origin information for each and every product especially Amazon. Amazon is flooded with cheap Chinese products almost certainly made in inhumane condition…
Unfortunately, I don't see that the West, and the United States in particular, is in a position to do anything in the near future. China seems to know that. They have by-and-large solved their Coronavirus problem months ago (with some pretty draconian methods), but the West is still reeling.
The US is heading into a pretty contentious election, nobody is sure whether or not we're on the brink of a recession, international diplomatic relationships are in tatters. If the CCP took Taiwan right now, I don't see the US lifting a finger.
Re: I am an Uighur who faced China’s concentration camps
#495CCP must not go unpunished. The world needs to stand up to their lone wolf style. If we do not stand up against CCP now it will only embolden the evil. Vote with your wallets. Avoid buying China made products. Pressure/ Make laws for retailers to enforce Country of Origin information for each and every product especially Amazon. Amazon is flooded with cheap Chinese products almost certainly made in inhumane condition…
> CCP must not go unpunished. The CCP already went unpunished with the Tibetans. Very few people in the west cared and it was before China became member of the WTO. The current administration tried to impose tariffs on China which were deemed illegal by the WTO. Maybe the west should have cared BEFORE welcoming China in the WTO.
Tibet really is the perfect case study for US agitprop. The typical audience for this material literally know nothing about the region outside of state dept/cia pr. For example, the Lamas ran a feudal theocracy but get played up like disney characters. I guess those are only supposed to be bad to the atheists here if it's scary Muslims. Or how it's portrayed as some invasion about as much as the union "invaded" the confederacy.
It's also a perfect illustration of how otherwise supposedly intelligent people in tech are just as easily manipulate outside their area of expertise as the fox news audience.
Re: I am an Uighur who faced China’s concentration camps
#496I have never read a first-hand account, that is why I am posting this.
Uh, there are many accounts from people who were at various camps if you just search, because the typical stay is much shorter than let on in propaganda. In fact, pretty much all accounts are from people who were released. These are much closer in nature to the US border detention camps, with "prisoners" entering and leaving regularly.
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#497Earlier quoted context omitted.
The Nazis committed many mass shootings, predating the concentration camps in many cases. Snyder’s Bloodlands is the definitive work on the subject. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloodlands
That just confirms the point. Shooting people wasn't economical.
The logistical cost varied depending on how deliberate the action was. Some killings, like the famous one in Romania, took a lot of planning. Others were more ad hoc, mostly using squads that would have been operating anyway, or using groups of nationals that could not have been turned to a more “useful” purpose (forgive the cold language!) It’s a large topic.
Re: I am an Uighur who faced China’s concentration camps
#498CCP must not go unpunished. The world needs to stand up to their lone wolf style. If we do not stand up against CCP now it will only embolden the evil. Vote with your wallets. Avoid buying China made products. Pressure/ Make laws for retailers to enforce Country of Origin information for each and every product especially Amazon. Amazon is flooded with cheap Chinese products almost certainly made in inhumane condition…
Xi Jinping has a constituency and to a degree opaque to the West, that constituency provides his mandate. Discomfit the constituency, the princes and princelings, in their pockets, and that mandate might be withdrawn. That revolution will be messy, but it's needed.
Thanks for at least admitting the goal is regime change, same as for the "Arab spring" which has left much of that region as failed states.
It's always amusing when people who cause the most misery in the world shout the loudest about human rights and such.
Re: I am an Uighur who faced China’s concentration camps
#499CCP must not go unpunished. The world needs to stand up to their lone wolf style. If we do not stand up against CCP now it will only embolden the evil. Vote with your wallets. Avoid buying China made products. Pressure/ Make laws for retailers to enforce Country of Origin information for each and every product especially Amazon. Amazon is flooded with cheap Chinese products almost certainly made in inhumane condition…
Unfortunately, I don't see that the West, and the United States in particular, is in a position to do anything in the near future. China seems to know that. They have by-and-large solved their Coronavirus problem months ago (with some pretty draconian methods), but the West is still reeling. The US is heading into a pretty contentious election, nobody is sure whether or not we're on the brink of a recession, internat…
I've heard people chime in that China used Draconian methods to contain COVID, but what Draconian methods did they use?
Re: I am an Uighur who faced China’s concentration camps
#500lol. the evidence of said concentration camps is s photo of a finger and weight loss. You gotta be kidding me CIA shill.