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You can no longer reinstall CS 2 or 3 even if you have the original disks

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Re: You can no longer reinstall CS 2 or 3 even if you have the original disks

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Post by nohliew1teideez »

skohan wrote: post #210
jimmaswell wrote: post #209

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I don't get this. I've used GIMP and Phptoshop and the UI differences are trivial.

Really? To give just one example, if I press cmd-T in PS, I go into an editing mode where I can translate, rotate, and scale a layer with intuitive, contextual mouse controls for each. With GIMP it's broken up into separate commands. I didn't spend so much time with it, but with PS things got guessable very quickly, where with GIMP it felt like the features are just stuffed in there wherever they can fit.

That proves the point, you simply don't know how to use Gimp yet. It is called "Unified Transform", available on the default toolbar or by pressing "shift-t". So the difference is literally pressing shift instead of control, a trivial difference by any standard, and reconfigurable as well.

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Post by Shared404 »

gspr wrote: post #326
cheeze wrote: post #107

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GIMP is great for a lot of stuff, but it's like comparing the usability of FreeBSD to ios

You mean it's far more usable for a lot of tasks?

But less polished. It does seem like a good analogy.

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Post by farss »

jimmaswell wrote: post #209
ed25519FUUU wrote: post #195

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I tried to use gimp and I really wanted to like it, but I can’t. It’s clumsy and looks like death. I’d rather pay for something more polished.

I don't get this. I've used GIMP and Phptoshop and the UI differences are trivial.

I want to like it, but GIMP is almost unusable for me. Really hard to do even basics, and have to spend a lot of time googling how to do what I want to do.

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Post by AlanYx »

AshamedCaptain wrote: post #306
porker wrote: post #254

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What about a replacement for Adobe Acrobat Pro on (Windows)? That is the one app that keeps me having a Creative Cloud subscription. In a business setting I find it essential.

The OCR is what keeps me in Acrobat camp, too. And very sadly since this company is outright customer-hostile and the software is absurdly expensive. I've been trying tesseract but find it lacking -- need a better shape/text/picture region recognition (people are working on it these days), and something which puts it back in tagged PDF form. I also want to try whatever Nuance/OmniSoft is selling these days since I us…

I'm in the same boat. I keep a virtual machine with an up-to-date Acrobat Pro license just for the OCR. It's not that the OCR is state-of-the-art any more. It's not as accurate as ABBYY in my experience. But it still generates the most predictable, consistent bounding boxes for text selection out of the alternatives that I've tried.

Re: You can no longer reinstall CS 2 or 3 even if you have the original disks

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Post by ChrisLomont »

cosmotic wrote: post #31
ChrisLomont wrote: post #5

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Did you accept the agreement when installing?

The terms of the CS6 license pertaining to activation don't indicate one way or the other what happens if the server was intentionally disabled by Adobe's choice. The only stated requirement is internet access; there's an implied requirement that no firewall is in place to prevent the software from communicating with the Adobe server.

The CS6 license [1] has a 90 day limited warranty in section 6, which, for most goods, means the items will work as intended for at least 90 days, otherwise you can return it for a full refund. It it fails after 90 days, then you generally cannot.

Also, did CS6 stop working? The only stories I see are CS2 and CS3.

[1] https://www.adobe.com/content/dam/cc/en/legal/licenses-terms...

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Post by perardi »

qwerty456127 wrote: post #264
Lammy wrote: post #49

There are special no-activation-required versions of the entire CS2 and CS3 product line! Adobe killed the product activation servers for CS2 products in 2013, and for CS3 products in 2017. For CS2, they offered Activation-free replacement installers and generic serial numbers on their support page. This resulted in a bunch of press[0] about it being a /!\ omg completely free Creative Suite /!\, so for CS3's 2017 shu…

> For CS2, they offered Activation-free replacement installers and generic serial numbers on their support page. This is the only reasonable way it should be done with old software. > This resulted in a bunch of press about it being a omg completely free Creative Suite Just write it in bold - something like "it's not free, you are only eligible if you have purchased a license". Whoever wants to pirate will pirate any…

Flash?? Seriously?

I'll be damned if I can find a reference, but it's definitely a “non-native” UI, probably using Adobe AIR.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adobe_AIR

Re: You can no longer reinstall CS 2 or 3 even if you have the original disks

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Post by pessimizer »

cheeze wrote: post #107
canistel wrote: post #83

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My notions might be outdated, but doesn't GIMP still lack CMYK support, which is sort of the default in the printing world?

GIMP is great for a lot of stuff, but it's like comparing the usability of FreeBSD to ios

GIMP is easy, the problem is CMYK.

Re: You can no longer reinstall CS 2 or 3 even if you have the original disks

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Post by thrwn_frthr_awy »

DaiPlusPlus wrote: post #148
thrwn_frthr_awy wrote: post #75

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EULAs in boxed software were always strange to begin with. You could not return opened software so if you purchased something like CS 2 on disc and didn’t like the terms there was nothing you could do. The agreements were not always enforceable unless the terms were stated on the box or a refund option was provided (which rarely was for fear of piracy).

> You could not return opened software On the contrary, I remember reading EULAs that clearly stated that if the user didn't agree with the EULA they could return it to the store where it was purchased for a full refund - regardless of the condition of the box. I think that was in Microsoft's terms mostly?

Yes, that is what I said in my comment—they needed to provide a return option. I’m happy to hear Microsoft did this when most companies did not.

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Post by [deleted] »

TheOtherHobbes wrote: post #331
CamperBob2 wrote: post #320

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There should be a choice: either the legal system protects your IP (copyright), or you do (DRM). You shouldn't get the benefits of both approaches, because they are mutually exclusive. Material that is protected with DRM has effectively been stolen from the future public domain. At the very least, key escrow should be required before copyright protection is granted.

This is like arguing that front doors shouldn't have locks because burglary is illegal. Legal status and practical enforcement are unrelated issues. You seem to be attempting to conflate them because you just don't like the idea of copyright. But that's a different issue. In fact it's perfectly consistent to enforce copyright through a combination of DRM and legal challenges. Legally copyright is the default. Nothing…

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Post by ivanhoe »

AshamedCaptain wrote: post #306
porker wrote: post #254

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What about a replacement for Adobe Acrobat Pro on (Windows)? That is the one app that keeps me having a Creative Cloud subscription. In a business setting I find it essential.

The OCR is what keeps me in Acrobat camp, too. And very sadly since this company is outright customer-hostile and the software is absurdly expensive. I've been trying tesseract but find it lacking -- need a better shape/text/picture region recognition (people are working on it these days), and something which puts it back in tagged PDF form. I also want to try whatever Nuance/OmniSoft is selling these days since I us…

Not sure how ABBYY FineReader is priced these days, but it was always giving me excellent results.
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