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You can no longer reinstall CS 2 or 3 even if you have the original disks

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Re: You can no longer reinstall CS 2 or 3 even if you have the original disks

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Post by Shared404 »

stackreality wrote: post #71
manquer wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

However , their sale terms for cs2 did not say you can pay a lot of money to use till Adobe changrs their mind. Their license agreement said I can use as long as I wanted to

They didn't pull the software off your computer. They stopped hosting the box, but you probably bought it at Best Buy and still have it laying around!

> Even with the original install disks

The quoted sentence is what people are bothered by. The program is still lying around on a disk, but cannot be used legally.

Re: You can no longer reinstall CS 2 or 3 even if you have the original disks

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Post by interestica »

egonschiele wrote: post #77

In the last month I've returned two pieces of Adobe software and canceled a yearly subscription. I've been seeing ads for the AI features in photoshop all over twitter this week. It's pretty clear what their business strategy is -- just keep working on the tech and assume people will buy their software because it's the only one with the hot tech thing. It's ironic that for a company that caters to designers, artists…

Are there any great alternatives to Flash (Animate) that can output SVG animation? I think that's the last piece for me.

Re: You can no longer reinstall CS 2 or 3 even if you have the original disks

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Post by hajile »

542458 wrote: post #43
mortenjorck wrote: post #27

I don't have the original license agreements handy to determine whether this is the case, but I'm guessing the following are true: 1) Customers "agree" to binding arbitration 2) Adobe reserves the right to terminate your ability to install the software at any time If the above are not true, however, this seems like a nice target for an entrepreneurial class action lawyer. Of course, what we really need are some vastl…

The original EULA doesn’t say those things (CS3 was before the era where everything had an arbitration agreement stapled to it), but does say that the software is only warrantied for 90 days and that that is the only warranty you get unless you have a support contract. https://labs.adobe.com/technologies/eula/photoshopcs3.html

Even with arbitration, tons and tons of arbitrations cases can hurt even large businesses.

To be clear though, arbitration where the employer chooses and pays (pays off really) the firm in question seems the definition of a conflict of interest and a one-sided contract that should be thrown out.

Re: You can no longer reinstall CS 2 or 3 even if you have the original disks

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Post by cheeze »

egonschiele wrote: post #77

In the last month I've returned two pieces of Adobe software and canceled a yearly subscription. I've been seeing ads for the AI features in photoshop all over twitter this week. It's pretty clear what their business strategy is -- just keep working on the tech and assume people will buy their software because it's the only one with the hot tech thing. It's ironic that for a company that caters to designers, artists…

As someone who has used both quite a bit, IMO Procreate is nice, and very good for certain things, but not even close to Photoshop.

If I can't run it on a desktop computer, big fat meh.

Re: You can no longer reinstall CS 2 or 3 even if you have the original disks

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Post by userbinator »

mjrpes wrote: post #37

I thought back in 2013 Adobe made a download available for Creative Suite 2 that did not require an activation server for install: https://www.cnet.com/news/adobe-releases-creative-suite-2-fo... However it looks like this download is not available anymore.

It's available in the web archive, among other places.

Re: You can no longer reinstall CS 2 or 3 even if you have the original disks

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Post by thewebcount »

daniellarusso wrote: post #92

I have been using Pixelmator Pro as a Photoshop substitute on OS X. I have been pretty happy with it, but I would be happy with Photoshop 7. What alternatives exist for ‘After Effects’, though?

Apple's Motion can do most stuff After Effects can do and many tricks it can't. Plus it's really nice not having to do RAM previews or renders. Just playback and it works!

Is Autodesk Combustion still around? That was another competitor of theirs back in the day.

Re: You can no longer reinstall CS 2 or 3 even if you have the original disks

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Post by cheeze »

canistel wrote: post #83
Shared404 wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or better yet, an open source alternative. I like both GIMP and Krita. The problem with piracy is that it still ends up with more people knowing the proprietary software, and thus helps it keep the position cemented.

My notions might be outdated, but doesn't GIMP still lack CMYK support, which is sort of the default in the printing world?

GIMP is great for a lot of stuff, but it's like comparing the usability of FreeBSD to ios

Re: You can no longer reinstall CS 2 or 3 even if you have the original disks

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Post by userbinator »

savant_penguin wrote: post #54

Just swap "Adobe cs2" for a car so it gets a lot funnier >>Sir, you are no longer allowed to use your car >But I paid for it! It's my car! >>Our aging servers had to be retired >Can't you just turn off the checking so it won't cost you anything and I can keep using my car? >>No sir, without the checking people would start pirating the car > But you don't even sell this car anymore! So much so you don't even want to k…

I could see this happening with Teslas in the future...

Re: You can no longer reinstall CS 2 or 3 even if you have the original disks

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Post by chongli »

savant_penguin wrote: post #54

Just swap "Adobe cs2" for a car so it gets a lot funnier >>Sir, you are no longer allowed to use your car >But I paid for it! It's my car! >>Our aging servers had to be retired >Can't you just turn off the checking so it won't cost you anything and I can keep using my car? >>No sir, without the checking people would start pirating the car > But you don't even sell this car anymore! So much so you don't even want to k…

It sounds absurd now but I wouldn’t be surprised if cars are locked down like that at some point. Just look at the stuff Tesla does all the time.

Re: You can no longer reinstall CS 2 or 3 even if you have the original disks

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Post by ragnak »

nitrogen wrote: post #60
542458 wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The original EULA doesn’t say those things (CS3 was before the era where everything had an arbitration agreement stapled to it), but does say that the software is only warrantied for 90 days and that that is the only warranty you get unless you have a support contract. https://labs.adobe.com/technologies/eula/photoshopcs3.html

I'd bet there's some other law that applies when a product ceases functioning because it was, in a way, sabotaged by the manufacturer.

Look at "planned obsolescence": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planned_obsolescence
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