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Intel Core I7 1165G7 “Tiger Lake” Linux Performance with Dell XPS 13 9310

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Re: Intel Core I7 1165G7 “Tiger Lake” Linux Performance with Dell XPS 13 9310

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Post by heelix »

thekyle wrote: post #71
heelix wrote: post #70

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I picked up one of the XPS 17" laptops. The screen is just gorgeous. If you go Centos on it, be prepared to do battle with the killer nic. (argh)

Curious, why CentOS instead of Fedora?

All the work stuff is running RHEL, so Centos is closer when it comes to all the software I'd run. I'm tempted to say Centos 8 Streams is Fedora... but I had a couple packages where it was tricky to get that to work, so currently doing the normal Centos 8 release. Everything else was Centos, so thus picking that when setting up the XPS.

As personal workstation OS, I all my JetBrain (GoLand, IntelliJ) development tools, VMWare Workstation, a mess of databases, and... Steam on my home desktop. Getting video drivers set to work nicely with proton is really what drives the laptop and I sorted that last year with the AMD cards on my threadripper last year. (now, it is silly easy, but last December...ye gods) If I can ever get my hands on a 3080, I assume the driver setup for NVidia will be similar for the 2060 in the laptop.

Re: Intel Core I7 1165G7 “Tiger Lake” Linux Performance with Dell XPS 13 9310

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Post by imhoguy »

kzrdude wrote: post #21
sz4kerto wrote: post #18

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I don't want to buy an expensive laptop with only 16G RAM.

Why not? The only thing that really eats ram is chrome tabs

I know that was trolling :) But let me answer you:

32GB+ RAM on laptop lets me run complete micro-services production-like environment (Java, VM, Docker) locally with efficient development/debug capabilities.

And that is at any place where I can get electricity and LTE/4G/3G which is enough to git pull/push or check on-line docs few times a day.

Re: Intel Core I7 1165G7 “Tiger Lake” Linux Performance with Dell XPS 13 9310

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Post by imhoguy »

hackerfromthefu wrote: post #77
cehrlich wrote: post #56

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The 400 nit panel has ridiculous amounts of ghosting (to the point where you can see it just by moving the mouse pointer), and the 500 nit panel is a “privacy” option which means worse than TN viewing angles. Unfortunately Lenovo is currently limiting the good screen to Intel for whatever reason.

Yup .. I was seriously considering buying one except for the ridiculous screen options! The x13 has an almost acceptable screen but non-touch, and single channel ram issues if I remember right. There just doesn't seem to be a really good ryzen laptop on the market. I'm vaguely hoping the MS surface laptop 4 releases with a nice surprise of reduced bezels and two pcie ssd slots!

If you are not pressured to buy now I would advise to wait until the next year where Ryzen laptops with USB4/TB4 will hit the market.

Re: Intel Core I7 1165G7 “Tiger Lake” Linux Performance with Dell XPS 13 9310

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Post by kzrdude »

imhoguy wrote: post #82
kzrdude wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why not? The only thing that really eats ram is chrome tabs

I know that was trolling :) But let me answer you: 32GB+ RAM on laptop lets me run complete micro-services production-like environment (Java, VM, Docker) locally with efficient development/debug capabilities. And that is at any place where I can get electricity and LTE/4G/3G which is enough to git pull/push or check on-line docs few times a day.

Unintentional trolling I guess. I'm just ignorant of what people use the RAM for, and reluctant to accept that our apps need this much.

Re: Intel Core I7 1165G7 “Tiger Lake” Linux Performance with Dell XPS 13 9310

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Post by meddlepal »

orev wrote: post #73
meddlepal wrote: post #40

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The fragility of Dell's consumer laptops is why I continue to buy Lenovo's which are less sleek but have better durability and run Linux just fine. In recent memory I've had an X1 Carbon and X1 Carbon Extreme Gen 1 and been very satisfied.

The X1s are part of Lenovo’s business line, not consumer, so you’d need to be comparing to the Dell Latitudes to make it fair.

I've owned T5xx and T4xx in the same timeframe, they're also high quality.

Im not sure the X1 Extreme is part of the biz line... it's marketed at gaming or more accurately people that want a Work/Play device.

Re: Intel Core I7 1165G7 “Tiger Lake” Linux Performance with Dell XPS 13 9310

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Post by cehrlich »

hackerfromthefu wrote: post #77
cehrlich wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The 400 nit panel has ridiculous amounts of ghosting (to the point where you can see it just by moving the mouse pointer), and the 500 nit panel is a “privacy” option which means worse than TN viewing angles. Unfortunately Lenovo is currently limiting the good screen to Intel for whatever reason.

Yup .. I was seriously considering buying one except for the ridiculous screen options! The x13 has an almost acceptable screen but non-touch, and single channel ram issues if I remember right. There just doesn't seem to be a really good ryzen laptop on the market. I'm vaguely hoping the MS surface laptop 4 releases with a nice surprise of reduced bezels and two pcie ssd slots!

The Yoga Slim 7 Pro looks great and has a color accurate retina-level display, but it seems impossible to actually buy one.

Re: Intel Core I7 1165G7 “Tiger Lake” Linux Performance with Dell XPS 13 9310

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Post by [deleted] »

ju-st wrote: post #35
localhost wrote: post #13

The difference in compile times between the AMD 4700U and the 1165G7 is stunning. Sure, it has 2x the cores but in the same TDP. Waiting for the premium Ryzen laptops to ship. Hoping the Surface Laptop 4 will be the premium Ryzen laptop that I've been waiting for (if I ever need to use a laptop again ...)

Don't trust TDP numbers. In the Anandtech Tiger Lake review the AMD 4700U used actually 30W instead of 15W for a significant time of the benchmark: https://www.anandtech.com/show/16084/intel-tiger-lake-review... I'd guess a "15W TDP" AMD CPU would consume 30W continuously if the cooling could cope with it.

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Re: Intel Core I7 1165G7 “Tiger Lake” Linux Performance with Dell XPS 13 9310

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Post by hackerfromthefu »

cehrlich wrote: post #86
hackerfromthefu wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yup .. I was seriously considering buying one except for the ridiculous screen options! The x13 has an almost acceptable screen but non-touch, and single channel ram issues if I remember right. There just doesn't seem to be a really good ryzen laptop on the market. I'm vaguely hoping the MS surface laptop 4 releases with a nice surprise of reduced bezels and two pcie ssd slots!

The Yoga Slim 7 Pro looks great and has a color accurate retina-level display, but it seems impossible to actually buy one.

Yes, it's on my radar! I believe it's not released yet and likely to be early next year.
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