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Re: Intel Core I7 1165G7 “Tiger Lake” Linux Performance with Dell XPS 13 9310

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Post by veselin » Sat, Oct 17, 2020, 7:50 PM UTC

I own two XPS developer edition laptops. The second one is up for an upgrade and the CPU is the one thing that is its weakest spot (Kaby Lake in my case), often on its limit when using Zoom for example and runs hot. But I think that with such minor upgrades of the CPU, I will tell bye to Dell.

This is the advantage of good competition. I still wonder if Dell would push a model with Zen in the next say 6 months before starting to look elsewhere.

Re: Intel Core I7 1165G7 “Tiger Lake” Linux Performance with Dell XPS 13 9310

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Post by sippingjippers » Sat, Oct 17, 2020, 7:55 PM UTC

jankotek wrote: post #8

> Dell’s 2-in-1 stick to a permanently soldered-in-place SSD long time fan anf consumer, but bye....

I think this has been the case for the 13" for some time, but at least the XPS 15 9550 I have does not suffer from it

Re: Intel Core I7 1165G7 “Tiger Lake” Linux Performance with Dell XPS 13 9310

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Post by localhost » Sat, Oct 17, 2020, 7:56 PM UTC

The difference in compile times between the AMD 4700U and the 1165G7 is stunning. Sure, it has 2x the cores but in the same TDP. Waiting for the premium Ryzen laptops to ship.

Hoping the Surface Laptop 4 will be the premium Ryzen laptop that I've been waiting for (if I ever need to use a laptop again ...)

Re: Intel Core I7 1165G7 “Tiger Lake” Linux Performance with Dell XPS 13 9310

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Post by jez » Sat, Oct 17, 2020, 7:57 PM UTC

On page 4, for code compilation:

> Given the core advantage of AMD Renoir, for those doing software development / frequently compiling code on your laptop will find even the Ryzen 5 outperforming Tiger Lake on Linux.

As people have mentioned elsewhere, maybe you’re looking at the XPS for the form factor, but it’s getting blown away in terms of compiling code.

Re: Intel Core I7 1165G7 “Tiger Lake” Linux Performance with Dell XPS 13 9310

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Post by black_puppydog » Sat, Oct 17, 2020, 8:02 PM UTC

jankotek wrote: post #8

> Dell’s 2-in-1 stick to a permanently soldered-in-place SSD long time fan anf consumer, but bye....

I bought the 13 inch 2in1 earlier this year. Had I not been bound to keep it due to lockdown (this being the only production-ready machine in the house at the time) I would have sent it back. Now I'm thinking to just buy a ryzen machine and ceremonially burn this one.

Pro tip: don't confuse "XPS 13" (amazing linux support) with "XPS 13 2in1" (horrible linux support, with issues ranging from bootup/shutdown to webcam simply not working, and it likely never will)

ahem...

Re: Intel Core I7 1165G7 “Tiger Lake” Linux Performance with Dell XPS 13 9310

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Post by jeffbee » Sat, Oct 17, 2020, 8:02 PM UTC

I wish these reviews were even slightly representative of what I normally use a laptop for, like running chrome/v8, crunching tons of geojson files with python, etc. Are all you out there with trivially parallel workloads all day long?

Re: Intel Core I7 1165G7 “Tiger Lake” Linux Performance with Dell XPS 13 9310

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Post by sz4kerto » Sat, Oct 17, 2020, 8:02 PM UTC

wonnage wrote: post #4

sz4kerto wrote: post #2

I'll buy one of these. Not because of the CPU -- despite of that. Ryzen would be great but there's no thin&light Ryzen laptop with great screen and great build. Not sure why. However, apart from the performance disadvantage (that's not extremely serious), the 9310 is a great package overall (or at least I can't find anything more compelling on the market with good battery life, good screen, good docking story (TB), g…

There's the Thinkpad T14s. I think the screen is worse and you miss out on an easily-accessible SD card reader, but I think Lenovo tends to be more reliable than Dell build quality-wise.

I wanted that. I actually ordered it in August, then I have cancelled it recently as the shipping date kept shifting (last info was November). T14s AMD looked very good compared to the 9300 in August, but it doesn't look _that_ good in December.

Re: Intel Core I7 1165G7 “Tiger Lake” Linux Performance with Dell XPS 13 9310

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Post by sz4kerto » Sat, Oct 17, 2020, 8:03 PM UTC

rwmj wrote: post #10

sz4kerto wrote: post #2

I'll buy one of these. Not because of the CPU -- despite of that. Ryzen would be great but there's no thin&light Ryzen laptop with great screen and great build. Not sure why. However, apart from the performance disadvantage (that's not extremely serious), the 9310 is a great package overall (or at least I can't find anything more compelling on the market with good battery life, good screen, good docking story (TB), g…

HP Envy x360 is great. It has a 6 (real) core AMD Ryzen 5 4500U, nice screen and absurd battery life (12 hours or something ridiculously long like that). https://rwmj.wordpress.com/2020/07/18/amd-zen-2-laptop/ The single thing I don't like about it is they've overloaded the backslash/pipe key on to another key.

I don't want to buy an expensive laptop with only 16G RAM.

Re: Intel Core I7 1165G7 “Tiger Lake” Linux Performance with Dell XPS 13 9310

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Post by michaellarabel » Sat, Oct 17, 2020, 8:10 PM UTC

jeffbee wrote: post #16

I wish these reviews were even slightly representative of what I normally use a laptop for, like running chrome/v8, crunching tons of geojson files with python, etc. Are all you out there with trivially parallel workloads all day long?

Any good repeatable use-cases around your GeoJSON that would work well for automated benchmark case? I"m always interested in adding more benchmarks... If you have any good test cases that would work well, happy to add them to the Phoronix Test Suite - report it @ https://github.com/phoronix-test-suite/test-profiles/issues and will look at the workloads. Thanks.

Re: Intel Core I7 1165G7 “Tiger Lake” Linux Performance with Dell XPS 13 9310

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Post by mgraupner » Sat, Oct 17, 2020, 8:14 PM UTC

sz4kerto wrote: post #2

I'll buy one of these. Not because of the CPU -- despite of that. Ryzen would be great but there's no thin&light Ryzen laptop with great screen and great build. Not sure why. However, apart from the performance disadvantage (that's not extremely serious), the 9310 is a great package overall (or at least I can't find anything more compelling on the market with good battery life, good screen, good docking story (TB), g…

Is the Huawei Matebook AMD edition available in your country? They are available with Ryzen processors and even better screens with a 3:2 display ratio.