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How can you be worse than JIRA? Thats almost impressive.
ClearQuest wants a word.
Now that brings back some bad memories from around 2001.
Atlassian moving to cloud-only, will stop selling server licenses
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#132What is the path forward for companies that work with export controlled data, CUI, and classified information?
Use the Data Center offering?
It wouldn’t surprise me if they eventually offer some kind of “segregated clouds”-type functionality.
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#133Are there good self-hosted alternatives for those of use who'd like to get off of Atlassian products? For Bamboo, I immediately think of Jenkins, although it's showing its age now. For Confluence, I think of Media Wiki. For BitBucket, I think of self-hosted GitLab. Not sure about Jira or Service Desk, though. I'd appreciate any better suggestions.
I wish there were better self-hosted wikis. Most seem to be from the mid-00s and rock the look. None of them have real-time collaborative editing like Confluence or Quip from my research.
Wiki.js seems to be up and coming in this space. It’s not full featured yet, but it feels like working with a modern web application, rather than a bunch of PHP. No real time collaboration though.
Re: Atlassian moving to cloud-only, will stop selling server licenses
#134This title is misleading. Atlassian will continue to sell and support their Data Center lineup, which are all on-premise products, so they are not moving to “cloud-only” as this title suggests. Now, this announcement will probably affect SMBs the most, as most large organizations, government agencies, etc are most likely already running Data Center and have left Server behind since it really isn’t scalable. I would’ve assumed that they would have just jacked up the price on Server to squeeze everyone out, but alas here we are.
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#135Switched from Jenkins to Bamboo Server about 5 years ago. The integrations with Bitbucket, Jira, and Slack have been really useful. My team has put a lot of time into getting the most out of Bamboo, so it’s disappointing that we won’t be able to continue to build on that.
It would be nice if Atlassian open-sourced Bamboo so that we could continue using it long-term, but honestly one of the primary reasons that we’ve stuck with them is their excellent support team. Without them, our development team would be forced to diagnose and fix issues in Bamboo, which is not the best use of dev time. So I guess we’ll attempt to find alternative build software soon.
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GitLab pretty much covers BitBucket (code), most of Bamboo (GitLab CI), maybe Jira if you use it only as a basic issue manager (forget about Agile stuff). Confluence is probably the hardest one. You could use any wiki software but the new "live-editing" stuff (Google Docs style) is pretty good for productivity. Hard to find an on-prem equivalent. Confluence's integration with Jira is hard to compare too.
What agile stuff are you missing from the paid versions of GitLab? We have epics, roadmaps, milestones, and iterations. The only thing that is missing I can think of is workflow enforcement, but that doesn’t strike me as Agile.
I would be missing the ability to setup customer access, but only give them limited access to tickets and ticket comments.
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#137Re: Atlassian moving to cloud-only, will stop selling server licenses
#138This title is misleading. Atlassian will continue to sell and support their Data Center lineup, which are all on-premise products, so they are not moving to “cloud-only” as this title suggests. Now, this announcement will probably affect SMBs the most, as most large organizations, government agencies, etc are most likely already running Data Center and have left Server behind since it really isn’t scalable. I would’v…
The title isn’t misleading if you consider:
- Customer must start with cloud,
- Data Center is the overweight offering, starts with thousands of users, grossly overpriced like GitHub Enterprise.
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#139Jira is really a weird product;
I'm using it for ages now and i have not seen any real features being added in the last 10 years and fundamental issues have not been adressed.
The weirdest thing was their UI change a few years back where they thought it would be great to make core workflows 1 or 2 clicks further away than before.
Like 'creating a ticket; went behind this plus button thing.
Plenty of features i would love to see, the community votes them up as well but nothing happens.
Apparently they are to busy with stuff no one is seeing. Hope that actually brings in innovation.
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Atlassian does not provide particularly good guidance on how to get their tools to perform well. The first big issue for any moderately busy system is that you need to dedicate huge gobs of heap memory (think 16G+) to the tool. After that, they suffer from poor schema design - there are tables that are literally missing indexes on commonly queried columns, and some columns that have delimited values embedded in them.…
> It's hard for me to imagine that atlassian would allow individual instances of jira/confluence/etc in their cloud versions to get nearly as much resources as you need to give them on-prem. The homedir for our on-prem Confluence instance is >120GB and the MySQL dump is 26GB uncompressed (2GB gzipped). Not sure how that import would/will go.
If Atlassian gets paid by month to store it, it seems ok. Most images seem to be in AWS anyway, so they probably don’t back them up. The DB can get big but is that a problem if they are paid to maintain it?