Anyone got a good opensource Jira alternative I can install locally? Most alternatives are cloud as well.
Traditionally, redmine. Non-traditionally I'd say GitLab.
Try looking here:
Atlassian moving to cloud-only, will stop selling server licenses
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Re: Atlassian moving to cloud-only, will stop selling server licenses
#12Anyone got a good opensource Jira alternative I can install locally? Most alternatives are cloud as well.
Keep checking HN for the next week. I hope we see some good alternatives.
Re: Atlassian moving to cloud-only, will stop selling server licenses
#13This is entirely because they had to fork their product and codebase between cloud and on-prem, and their resulting total failure on execution on their internal product roadmap.
Atlasssian has demonstrated a chronic inability over the past few years to maintain feature parity between what are effectively two different products.
Atlasssian has had a really, really terrible feature execution delivery pace over the past few years - "Next-Gen Projects" were so immature at launch they were useless, and have been incredibly slow to mature.
So they need to focus their developers onto building features on the Cloud product codebase, but I am not hopeful that this means they'll actually ship features faster.
Re: Atlassian moving to cloud-only, will stop selling server licenses
#14We're using Jira, Confluence, and BitBucket on-prem at our DC now, on some pretty sizeable VM's with good network connectivity back to head office. Despite that, it feels very slow. Not the occasional 10+ second page load, where you've accidentally clicked something that happens to generate a cascade of cache misses. I can forgive that kind of infrequent performance hiccup. But rather, regular usage, especially of Co…
I don’t share the same experiences with slowness (maybe we do something right on the instances we manage). I do however experience slowness in cloud. I assume they increase cloud resources in some kinds of steps that make them appear extremely sluggish.
Re: Atlassian moving to cloud-only, will stop selling server licenses
#15Ouch, on-prem software is a really tough business. I can kinda see why companies want out. Especially as they get bigger. Two of my former employers had to go through this hurdle of moving to SaaS from a an on-prem installation.
* It's really hard to scale support. You end up being on the hook for why "it's not working" in thousands of different of environments you have zero control over. Anyone qualified to do that level of support could be making more money not hating their life.
* Nobody wants to pay for updates. I mean it's totally rational but we also don't want to support $old_version forever.
* Even when updates were free people still didn't do it. Telling your users "sorry you're using an ancient version, please update" just makes people angry. Again, understandable, but surprise! those same people suddenly weren't angry about updates once they were on our SaaS offering. Turns out that frog boiling is reasonably effective.
* We had to deal with swaths of customer complaints about performance that we're mostly not our fault. Sorry our app is slow on 1/64th of a used SuperMicro. Maybe your IT department should get on GoFundMe?
Re: Atlassian moving to cloud-only, will stop selling server licenses
#16This sounds like a terrible move and will probably force all medium-size organizations I work with to ditch Atlassian. We have the technical know-how to administer data center versions of their products, but we can’t do shit if they force potential customers to pay for a minimum of 40 000 USD for a license per product. Many of these orgs have multiple Atlassian products so this will probably end up doubling costs on…
> If I was a Microsoft or another enterprise tech company I’d hire a thousand engineers tomorrow to develop a Jira/Confluence competitor before the grace period for server licenses ends.
Azure DevOps Server, née Visual Studio Team System, already exists.
Re: Atlassian moving to cloud-only, will stop selling server licenses
#17Are there good self-hosted alternatives for those of use who'd like to get off of Atlassian products?
For Bamboo, I immediately think of Jenkins, although it's showing its age now.
For Confluence, I think of Media Wiki.
For BitBucket, I think of self-hosted GitLab.
Not sure about Jira or Service Desk, though.
I'd appreciate any better suggestions.
Re: Atlassian moving to cloud-only, will stop selling server licenses
#18I wonder what will happen with all the plugins that only worked on the "in premise" version of JIRA. I remember at some point going through the offering of plugins and a lot of them where only available for that version.
Re: Atlassian moving to cloud-only, will stop selling server licenses
#19This sounds like a terrible move and will probably force all medium-size organizations I work with to ditch Atlassian. We have the technical know-how to administer data center versions of their products, but we can’t do shit if they force potential customers to pay for a minimum of 40 000 USD for a license per product. Many of these orgs have multiple Atlassian products so this will probably end up doubling costs on…
> If I was a Microsoft or another enterprise tech company I’d hire a thousand engineers tomorrow to develop a Jira/Confluence competitor before the grace period for server licenses ends. Azure DevOps Server, née Visual Studio Team System, already exists.
If I was going to switch anyway, I wouldn't switch to Azure DevOps Server, I'd switch to GitHub Enterprise. I don't think there's much of a future for Azure DevOps.
Re: Atlassian moving to cloud-only, will stop selling server licenses
#20Wow. This must feel like a huge fuck-you to people that migrated to Atlassian because they could host things locally (I worked at a place that made the leap 3 years ago and it was a somewhat controversial decision. I feel kinda bad for everyone that'll be hearing an "I told you so" on Monday morning). Not only is the product being killed, they're raising the price during the migration period. Their FAQ also hints tha…
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