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Re: Good sleep, good learning, good life

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Post by muzani »

wasdfff wrote: post #95
japhyr wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I committed to living without an alarm clock in college, 20+ years ago. I fought long battles with my snooze button, and realized I was spending hours each morning hitting the snooze button. I realized if I just didn't set an alarm I'd probably get up later than I usually set my alarm for, but earlier than I typically got out of bed. It worked; I started waking up refreshed, and happy to get out of bed in the morning…

I tried doing this in college too but it broke down immediately. The way coursework and exams are conducted almost forces you to burn the midnight oil and sacrifice sleep for forcing another three or four things to memorize into your head. That’s what it felt like, like I had very limited time to shove x amount of things into my brain which only processes at y rate, so if I had too many things to shove in at a time d…

The linked article is part of research on optimal learning. The proposed schedule will get a lot more out of your time. It's usually better to do your studying super early in the morning rather than late into the night, and proper sleep helps a lot with information storage. YMMV though; some people are naturally better in the evening, or sometimes daytime schedules just don't fit someone's lifestyle.

Re: Good sleep, good learning, good life

#103

Post by the_only_law »

jmnicolas wrote: post #87
DjiboutiJon wrote: post #68

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I think it is great you found something that works for you. The main point of both your comment + the article (which, I also haven't been able to read yet) is that you need to find what works for you by trying things. Personally, melotonin only gives me 6 hours of sound sleep (many times I have tried to get more, last night being one of them). But in 6 hours from sleeping almost like clockwork I will be awake- and qu…

Have you tried bi-phasic sleep patterns? You could for example get 6 hours at night and a couple hour in the day as a big nap.

My sleep got royal screwed during the summer and I'm trying to get back to at least some sort of stable baseline. Probably a few months ago I managed to get myself on a biphasic sleep schedule. It probably would have worked if I had more flexibility in my schedule.

Re: Good sleep, good learning, good life

#104

Post by bostonvaulter2 »

bd_beats wrote: post #26
sradman wrote: post #21

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The SuperMemo algorithms [1] have been re-implemented in more modern software such as Anki [2]. These systems are popular for goal oriented learning like studying for a test or learning a new language. [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/SuperMemo#Algorithms [2] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anki_(software)

Anki's SRS algotihm is based on SM2 and is woefully outdated in comparison to SM's SRS algo. Additionally SM is much more feature rich once you get into incremental reading and fully optimizing your learning experience. Sure the UI isn't a nice flashy Electron.js app, but SM is a titan compared the terminate that is Anki.

Looks like SuperMemo is windows only which is a deal-breaker for me.

Re: Good sleep, good learning, good life

#105

Post by muzani »

admax88q wrote: post #88
jmnicolas wrote: post #86

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This doesn't work for me. Left to my own schedule, I go to bed later and later and wake up later and later. The thing that works for me is waking up (with an alarm) every day at the same time (6 o'clock) including week-ends. I have a "dawn simulator" clock so most of the time I'm already awake when the alarm rings. But no matter what, when it rings I get out of bed immediately. You snooze you loose!

I think the key point from OP was paying closer attention the when they went to sleep. If you know you have to be up by X then be sure to go to bed at X-Y. I would imagine the struggle is winding down for bed early rather than waiting till you "feel tired" to go to sleep. Artificial light and stimulation makes it easy to stay up way later than intended.

For me, it's easier to wake early than sleep early. Whatever I want to do after midnight, I can do before dawn. And that plays into the artificial light thing of waking me up.

Once you're tired from waking early, you're far less likely to look at your phone too late.

Re: Good sleep, good learning, good life

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Post by zemvpferreira »

eriktrautman wrote: post #84
DjiboutiJon wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it is great you found something that works for you. The main point of both your comment + the article (which, I also haven't been able to read yet) is that you need to find what works for you by trying things. Personally, melotonin only gives me 6 hours of sound sleep (many times I have tried to get more, last night being one of them). But in 6 hours from sleeping almost like clockwork I will be awake- and qu…

I have the same problem with melatonin — it seems like artificial sleep because when I wake up 4-5 hours later, my body really doesn’t want to fall back asleep.

Have you played around with dosage?

Re: Good sleep, good learning, good life

#108

Post by mofeeta »

rajlego wrote: post #34
roel_v wrote: post #12

It's been a while since there have been posts on Supermemo here (meta: I miss the times when HN was mostly about bootstrapping software businesses, nootropics and self hacking), so I'm wondering - are there people who (still) use Supermemo or similar software for actual learning, and not memorizing for its own sake, as a party trick basically (which I feel is its main use case, at least in the way it's in the news)?…

Yeah, the Discord SuperMemo community has grown actually a fair bit over the last year: https://discord.gg/vUQhqCT I myself only started using SuperMemo over the last 2 years but I think in the last 1, I've seen lots of friends get massively better and I'm looking forward to what we create over the next 5 years. In terms of new implementations, one thing I'm excited about is dendro: https://dendro.com.au/ . It's made…

I'm curious what you've seen in your friends that would make them seem massively better. I've thought of trying out supermemo, so I'd like to hear how it's helped you.

Re: Good sleep, good learning, good life

#110

Post by mitch3x3 »

muzani wrote: post #101
wasdfff wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I tried doing this in college too but it broke down immediately. The way coursework and exams are conducted almost forces you to burn the midnight oil and sacrifice sleep for forcing another three or four things to memorize into your head. That’s what it felt like, like I had very limited time to shove x amount of things into my brain which only processes at y rate, so if I had too many things to shove in at a time d…

The linked article is part of research on optimal learning. The proposed schedule will get a lot more out of your time. It's usually better to do your studying super early in the morning rather than late into the night, and proper sleep helps a lot with information storage. YMMV though; some people are naturally better in the evening, or sometimes daytime schedules just don't fit someone's lifestyle.

I had a similar college experience to the parent post. 8am classes every day and late night lab classes every other day. This schedule prevented me from having any time in the morning to study and pretty much forced an erratic sleep schedule on myself. Lots of quick naps in between classes.
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