Looking at the experience of black Britons through an American lens

Post by therealdrag0 » Sat, Oct 03, 2020, 5:53 PM UTC

koheripbal wrote: post #281

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As a British person with Caribbean family background, I found the reaction to this from the internet so strange. In Britain it's normal that the different cultures here mix. Shops selling Baltic bread, next to shops selling jerk chicken, across the road from a traditional English pub. People of all colours and backgrounds frequenting all of them. From an outside perspective, people in the USA seem very pre-occupied w…

> I found the reaction to this from the internet so strange That's because "the internet"'s voice isn't the prevailing opinion of the general population. It is the fad-driven prevailing opinion of socially dysfunctional people aged 14-27. Social media addiction is a disease, and en masse it has cast a shadow over all of political discourse.

Post by snakeboy » Sun, Oct 04, 2020, 3:58 PM UTC

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Fortunately in the US, 99.998% of police encounters don't result in a death.

I mean that's just verifiably untrue: https://www.pnas.org/content/116/34/16793

Post by berryjerry » Mon, Oct 05, 2020, 1:24 AM UTC

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I don't think you are understanding or respecting their argument. Population is not a relevant factor. Violent crime is the relevant factor. The amount of violent crime committed by members of a group is what correlates to higher shootings of that group. Population based analysis has many faults. For example: Say one group consisting of white people has 100 of 1 million people drowning. One group of black people has…

Violent crime in US is relevant because the state is the one committing it. In US there are 6 homicide every 100 thousands of population, in Europe is 0.6, ten times less, in Japan it's 0.5. Do you wanna know some country that have similar stats to US? Nigeria, Sudan, Angola, Cuba, Somalia, Burundi, Zambia Some countries that have better stats? Rwanda (2.3), Mozambico, Camerun (1.4), Algeria (1.3),Burkina Faso (2.1)…

Post by human_person » Mon, Oct 05, 2020, 7:23 PM UTC

berryjerry wrote: post #368

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I think context is really key here. A friend (who is a descendant of slaves) once told me that one reason hairstyles in particular are are such a sensitive subject, they were literally the only piece of culture/heritage people were able to bring with them on slave ships. When families were ripped apart it it was a connection/ritual they could hold onto no matter what. Fast forward to the recent past and black people…

I don't see consistency in logic. If the hairstyles were not accepted then 'wealthy white women' wouldn't be celebrated/complimented for adopting them. If anything having them become more celebrated by all would have those hairstyles more accepted than ever.

Post by [deleted] » Tue, Oct 06, 2020, 12:16 AM UTC

human_person wrote: post #355

drumhead wrote: post #62

Adele, the singer, was photographed at the Nottinghill Carnival (a massive Carribean street festival over the August bank holiday in London) with her hair in Bantu Knots and wearing a bikini top in the colours of the Jamaican flag. As soon as it was on twitter the you started getting tweets from Black Americans about cultural appropriation, but this was met in turn by fierce opposition from African and Carribean post…

I think context is really key here. A friend (who is a descendant of slaves) once told me that one reason hairstyles in particular are are such a sensitive subject, they were literally the only piece of culture/heritage people were able to bring with them on slave ships. When families were ripped apart it it was a connection/ritual they could hold onto no matter what. Fast forward to the recent past and black people…