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When filling out forms in the US that asked for race, I entered "mutt" but admittedly I could afford to mock.
My dad always jokes about being... Irish and possibly Catholic.
Bonus clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTx-sdR6Yzk (unfortunately not Kneecap, because if they have anything to say about religion, I wouldn't have noticed, having no gaelic myself.)
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I am getting downvoted for merely stating the origins of caste system. This speaks volumes about echo chamber in which HN audience is living.
Please don't assume motives for downvotes, it's a fruitless endeavor that only makes you look bitter. You were not "merely stating the origins of [the] caste system." You justified it, by stating that "all mature societies need division of labor." Firstly, that is a very vague claim, and secondly, you neglected to explain why on Earth that "division of labor" should be hereditary.
My other comment quotes shloka from Hindu text clearly saying everyone is born lower class unless they earn their place.
How is that unfair?
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When filling out forms in the US that asked for race, I entered "mutt" but admittedly I could afford to mock.
My dad always jokes about being... Irish and possibly Catholic.
After an interview I attended at a fintech company, my Indian team lead straight out said she was trying to figure out the interviewee's cast. I was not familiar with the concept -- so my expression was mostly blank -- but she immediately followed up with "oh, I shouldn't have said that". I took no action, but wasn't sure what to do. After I learned more about it, I started to wonder where I was in this hierarchy. If…
> I started to wonder where I was in this hierarchy . I guess you're not Indian, so as I understand it that actually makes you casteless - untouchable, by strict adherence to the rules but here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk%3ACaste%2FArchive_1#Forei... there is the quote: "if memory serves, Westerners (particularly English) are held to be Brahmin, "
To be honest.. I can see it working as a scam of some sort. As long as the “white man” has money you might as well be of the highest caste right?
Here we’re trying to eliminate caste, but some geniuses want to give a caste to all sorts. You might as well give gold a caste...
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> Only case with victim from lower class and culprits from higher class is getting all the media attention Or maybe it was because of the exceptional brutality of the crime itself, and the shocking behaviour of the police - cremating the body at 2:30AM without the family's approval.
Why police decides to cremated the body should be investigated for sure. But Equally brutal cases have happenned recently with no outrage at all.[1] Sharing it here for argument's sake. Personally I don't like to share these shitty stories usually. [1] https://www.google.com/amp/s/indianexpress.com/article/india...
You can say that the crime has now been politicized, but in a democracy, crimes are always a political matter.
I hope that, if nothing else, it leads to law and order becoming a major election issue.
I am an Indian and I genuinely don't know exactly where I stand in the cast hierarchy. In India it was pretty common for people to ask me my caste. However, what struck me the most was, that during my Master's in the US, other Indians who I was attending university with, would ask me the same question. When I would tell them that I genuinely don't know the answer, they would mock and imperceptibly laugh at me. I felt…
In my country it is pretty common for Turks and Russians to live in separate communities if they are concentrated in an area, especially if that isn't urban, but it can happen there too.
I believe the motivation can range from pride to a bad conscience of having better living conditions or a feeling of having left their former countrymen behind. And probably a lot of other reasons.
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> This might be taboo, but every time I see a situation where there are multiple Indians in a reporting chain, I run. I'm glad these topics are brought up to the surface and being discussed, because the strategy of voting with your feet is no longer an effective one, given the proliferation of Indian management across the industry. It never quite made sense to me why non-American Indians (or any other foreigners, for…
To a large extent it's because the ruling class in America and Western nations is trying to create a managerial class of English-speaking "global men" (and women) for who things like religion, culture and traditions are kept out of the office at best, if not completely eliminated. I don't think it's a good idea in the first place, but it doesn't even work, because it tends to crush weaker cultures while only preservi…
If I am a Brahmin, why wouldn’t I want to know if my co worker is also a Brahmin?
Ivy League, for example..is the caste system of the US. Are we going to abolish them?
This is an absurd article. It is absolutely cringe worthy. Shame on NPR.
An egalitarian society is one which is open and people accept others despite their differences. And not because it would be politically incorrect or legally vulnerable to do so..this kind of nonsense narratives is why we have acrimonious and hostile societies.
If there is a wound, let it build up pus and burst open. Letting it fester until a suppurating wound kicks you into septic shock is really not advisable.
There is no diversity without differences. If we are all same, it’s called being homogenous. Not diverse.
My 2 cents about my experience in growing up in rural central India, which hosts several major Scheduled Tribes (Adivasis) and Neo-Buddhists (erstwhile dalits). * Modern caste system isn't the same as the one in 19th, 18th and 17th Century. Different groups climbed up and down the ladder, aided by the socio-political movements. * The modern version of caste is more about social prestige, and status. In my experience…
This is a point I feel many people miss out. The non brahmin upper castes are never pointed out in the discussions related to caste discrimination. Somehow it's always the brahmins vs lower caste. As if there are no "upper" castes apart from brahmins.
For example, in Tamil Nadu, there are a lot of non Brahmin upper castes namely nadar, vanniyar, mudaliyar, thevar, gounder, kallar, vellalar, naikkar, chettiar, reddy and many more.
These non brahmin upper castes spew the misinformation that brahmins are the reason for caste discrimination when they themselves practice it. They would advocate that their (non brahmin) community should marry a brahmin girl to show superiority since male > female. But the same community would oppose, even use violence to prevent marriages between themselves and a "lower" caste, esp if the girl is from the "higher" and the boy is from a "lower" caste. These are the same hypocritical retards who keep saying brahmins are the only ones who show caste discrimination.
People should start noticing and acknowledging this aspect of discrimination too esp since they are the majority of the population who drive the narrative.
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> I started to wonder where I was in this hierarchy . I guess you're not Indian, so as I understand it that actually makes you casteless - untouchable, by strict adherence to the rules but here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk%3ACaste%2FArchive_1#Forei... there is the quote: "if memory serves, Westerners (particularly English) are held to be Brahmin, "
WTF is even that page? You might as well have quoted 4chan. It’s so hilarious, I’m not even offended. To be honest.. I can see it working as a scam of some sort. As long as the “white man” has money you might as well be of the highest caste right? Here we’re trying to eliminate caste, but some geniuses want to give a caste to all sorts. You might as well give gold a caste...
again as I understand it strictly speaking a foreigner should be casteless, and hence untouchable.
But that discussion implies that the actual behavior towards foreigners does not match that, which would seem reasonable to me. Indians will need to interact with foreigners, if they are without caste that would be a problem, so how to fit the foreign into the social system.