Judge temporarily blocks U.S. ban on TikTok downloads from U.S. app stores

Post by pessimizer » Mon, Sep 28, 2020, 2:30 AM UTC

MattGaiser wrote: post #81

notatoad wrote: post #71

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so is just saying the words "national security" enough for you to believe that this is justified? should the US government be allowed to block any private company from doing business just by saying those magic words, with no further justification? or just any foreign-owned company? or just any chinese company - if it's china, what makes china special? there's got to be some limitation on where you draw the line on th…

Foreign controlled seems like a very clear dividing line that greatly limits abuse. It helps that unlike China, the United States has judicial review.

Post by howlgarnish » Mon, Sep 28, 2020, 2:31 AM UTC

Retric wrote: post #138

yibg wrote: post #112

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Let’s not pretend this is anything other than just plain old geopolitics with TikTok caught in the middle. Going by “national security” reasons most countries should ban Facebook and google, not to mention amazon, Microsoft, oracle, Cisco etc. since the us government has already shown willingness and ability to spy on anything they can get their hands on, including foreign heads of state. Allowing US controlled socia…

Many countries including China do block US companies on national security grounds. National security is very much a double edged sword.

Post by sudosysgen » Mon, Sep 28, 2020, 2:31 AM UTC

kabacha wrote: post #33

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There's a valid concern but the administration's approach is heavy-handed and impractical. They seem intent on simply stealing a successful company from China and letting american companies earn the rewards and maybe get a kickback in the process. They should use either their national security powers or, better yet, an act of Congress to ban the specific objectionable activities and let the markets sort themselves ou…

I'm sure it's not a coincidence that one of the biggest western social media apps - Instagram - launched a direct clone of tiktok. So far IG reels are dead but if TikTok gets banned there's an undeniable benefit for IG, right?

Post by unethical_ban » Mon, Sep 28, 2020, 2:33 AM UTC

dilap wrote: post #126

It's strange how so many in the US have adopted the mindset that it's important, for national security, to deny its citizens access to foreign social networks. Previously, when China did the same, this was widely viewed as an unfortunate restriction their freedoms -- the actions of an intrusive, authoritarian government. Now that the US is itself considering doing the same, many in the west have suddenly adopted the…

Post by avanti » Mon, Sep 28, 2020, 2:33 AM UTC

dannyw wrote: post #153

dilap wrote: post #126

It's strange how so many in the US have adopted the mindset that it's important, for national security, to deny its citizens access to foreign social networks. Previously, when China did the same, this was widely viewed as an unfortunate restriction their freedoms -- the actions of an intrusive, authoritarian government. Now that the US is itself considering doing the same, many in the west have suddenly adopted the…

The US is a democratic government with the rule of law, as seen in this very example with a judge blocking the order.