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Post by gitua »

Spivak wrote: post #296
gitua wrote: post #216

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It's true, but I think that's not the point. It's not because people don't care that it won't impact them. Many people don't care about Privacy, Ecology, etc... yet it will have catastrophic consequences down the line. Similarly here, yes it's true people don't care about the web engine, yet given Mozilla situation and Microsoft who switched to chromium, the web is seriously not in a good shape and it will have conse…

I mean the most likely effect of iOS allowing alternative browsers is even more Chrome dominance than already currently exists. The fact that a major platform forces developers to not just stop once it works in Chrome is probably a net benefit at this point.

Yes that's a fair point agreed . If every platform were like that then Mozilla would never have even existed, but Chrome gaining even more market wouldn't be great either

Re: iOS 14 is available today

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Post by debug-desperado »

crazygringo wrote: post #284
debug-desperado wrote: post #270

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Do you know how it compares to Dolby Atmos for headphones, DTS Headphone:X, and Windows Sonic? Those solutions all work with conventional stereo headphones. Edit: after more reading I believe the main difference is the sensors in the Airpods Pro track head movement. For instance the virtual center (dialog speaker) would always appear to be coming from the display device, even if you move or tilt your head.

Son of a gun, I went and researched and turns out my Mac can produce a "similar" spatialization effect in VLC from 5.1 audio at least, under Window > Audio Effects > Filter > Headphone virtualization. Not that I've ever heard anyone mention its existence before. But I'm definitely using that from now on. Thanks for setting me on that track! As for comparing the two... the iOS one is absolutely better, but the VLC one…

Classic "virtual surround" works like you've noticed in VLC. I believe the new spatial audio formats (including Apple's) all use a standard HRTF (head-related transfer function) that approximates an average person's ear canal shape. This lets you be placed in a virtual space surrounded by audio sources/objects.

Sony's Mark Cerny had a fascinating talk on PS5's spatial audio implementation. Sony might even support importing a custom-measured HRTF for even greater sound placement accuracy. No idea where you'd get it measured though!

Re: iOS 14 is available today

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Post by filoleg »

theshrike79 wrote: post #386
jdxcode wrote: post #311

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I own a pair and they don’t stay in my ears even if I’m sat perfectly still for more than 15 minutes at a time. I really hope they fix this somehow.

I've tried every single option for in-ears except for custom-moulded parts. None of them fit. I've tried cheap ones, I've tried expensive ones, I've tried swappable tips. Nope. I also hate the Darth Vader soundtrack I get when I shove in-ear plugs in my head. I can hear every single breath I take. Regular old AirPods though? They stick to my ears like glue. People have different shaped ears, no one model can fit ever…

Exactly the same. Original airpods were fitting my ear like they were molded just for me. I ran and jumped with them in my ears multiple times, they pretty much didn't move at all.

Airpods Pro are awesome in terms of sound and features, but no matter which of the included eartips I use for it, they always tend to wiggle out. Never fully to the point of falling out, but plenty of times it got to that weird in-between stage of falling out and staying in. No idea why. Hopefully there are more third party eartips available for Airpods Pro now as opposed to the last time I checked (which was just a month or two after the release), so I can finally find a pair that makes them stay in.

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Post by tzs »

antipaul wrote: post #271
tzs wrote: post #211

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You can also do it by voice. Tell Siri to "open AppName" and it opens the app named AppName. It does have trouble with some apps, though. Authy does not work at all when pronounced the way I expect it to be pronounced ("auth" as in "authorize"). Siri just says that there is no app named "Offie". And no, I do not pronounce "th" anything at all like "ff". If I try pronouncing Authy as "oathy" is works maybe 1/4 to 1/3…

Did you try training Siri? (Enable siri text) and then tap it when it says this app not found, and change "offy" to "Authie". After a few times, it should recognize your prompt

I'm not sure what setting that is. I've tried hitting the "tap to edit" thingy to edit the command it head from "open Offie" to "open Authy" several times, and it doesn't seem to really help much.

It's not that much of a problem on my phone or iPad, because I can just ask it to open Authenticator (Microsoft's authentication app). When I set up TOTP for a site, I scan the QR code in both.

It's on my Apple Watch that it is annoying. Microsoft Authenticator on the watch doesn't do TOTP. It's just for authenticating with Microsoft sites. So on the watch I need to use Authy if I need a TOTP code for a site.

On the watch, I don't see any option to edit a command that Siri gets wrong.

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Post by dismantlethesun »

Spivak wrote: post #296
gitua wrote: post #216

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's true, but I think that's not the point. It's not because people don't care that it won't impact them. Many people don't care about Privacy, Ecology, etc... yet it will have catastrophic consequences down the line. Similarly here, yes it's true people don't care about the web engine, yet given Mozilla situation and Microsoft who switched to chromium, the web is seriously not in a good shape and it will have conse…

I mean the most likely effect of iOS allowing alternative browsers is even more Chrome dominance than already currently exists. The fact that a major platform forces developers to not just stop once it works in Chrome is probably a net benefit at this point.

Not really... for me, iOS is a hard target, because all the non-default browsers (Chrome, Brave, Firefox) interact in different ways with the underlying engine that Safari provides.

Bugs present in iOS browsers, won't be present in Android browsers even if the browser version is the same which makes debugging harder.

For example, it turns having 3 targets (Chrome, Firefox, Safari...) into 5 targets (Chrome Android, Chrome ioS, Firefox Android, Firefox iOS, Safari iOS).

Differences between mobile/desktop browser are relatively minor in comparison.

On the Chrome side, there's fragmentation from all the browser that just wrap Chrome like Samsung Internet and QQ, but those are greatly mitigated by having up to date apps or are region specific so won't apply if your business doesn't do business in China.

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Post by tonywastaken »

alfalfasprout wrote: post #347
t0mbstone wrote: post #57

I'm not touching that update with a 10 foot pole. Not until it's been live for at least a week, and developers have had a chance to actually update their apps for it! Honestly, that's just good policy on all Apple updates lately. It seems that more and more of them have been plagued with issues and are trailed by hotfixes. I've learned to just wait a while. Other people can be the test guinea pigs!

I've been using the beta since they put it up and it's been very solid. Not only that, my phone actually got a lot faster. Plus the new privacy features are huge (eg; restricting which photos are accessed, tracking by apps, etc.)

Instagram is already getting around the photos privacy feature: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24505285

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Post by babypuncher »

fma wrote: post #316
babypuncher wrote: post #109

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It wasn't a big deal because manual switching is almost instantaneous, unlike other headphones on other platforms.

My Bose Soundsport and Jabra 75t support simultaneous connections. Faster than "almost instantaneous"...because it's connected to 2 devices. I can watch a video on youtube on my laptop and immediately pickup a phone call. I never understood why Apple didn't support this. My Soundsport also annoucnes on startup which devices it's connected to..which is helpful when you have more than 2. My Soundsport is several years…

Two simultaneous connections unnecessarily drains the battery of whichever device is not currently being used. It would also provide an inconsistent user experience when using more than two devices (say an iPhone, iPad, and a MacBook). I can see why Apple prefers to make actual switching as seamless as possible rather than support simultaneous connections.

Do you have to choose which device you are listening on by interacting with the headset, or is there a way to toggle that from the source devices?

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Post by fakedang »

2muchcoffeeman wrote: post #306
fakedang wrote: post #194

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I do say I'll switch to Samsung or a One Plus if I'm looking for a higher end, an OPPO or Vivo if I'm going for a lower end, or a Redmi or Honor, if I'm going for a midrange resilient phone. I use a Blackberry for my black box phone, so I don't really care about security on my Android stuff - Google or China can have all that's in there. What I do care about are having options, and Android does provide me a lot of op…

>* I use a Blackberry for my black box phone* I don’t think you’re representative of the general market... I’ve never heard of people talking about the “Samsung experience”, or the “Huawei experience”. These devices are interchangeable. People talk about specs or price or getting longer term support.

I mentioned the Blackbox phone only because folks here (and mostly here alone) care about privacy. People outside this ecosystem don't give a damn about privacy - it's either the value of the phone at its price or its the capability of the phone which appeals to them.

Appleistas are the only ones who talk about the Apple experience because clearly it's only Apple which came up with that marketing gimmick. There's nothing different or even superbly superior of the Apple experience compared to the Huawei or Samsung experience. On the contrary, it's effectively much easier for most people I've met to get familiar with Android over Apple. Like most people mention here regularly, most people buy Apple only because of the green chat box stigma.

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Post by jannes »

dvtrn wrote: post #307
ppeetteerr wrote: post #286

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Try using two fingers (or both hands). It works really well when you use one hand to swipe and the other to move.

Holy [expletive] I had no idea you could do that, thank you for the tip! Sent from my iPad

You can also move multiple app icons at once with this method.

Just tap additional icons with your secondary finger while moving an app, and the additional apps will be added to the main finger’s “stack”.

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Post by tekknik »

layoutIfNeeded wrote: post #374
samatman wrote: post #351

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I hear you. The headphone jack on the phone, I can actually see it. Not a lot of real estate inside a phone, and they wanted people to try AirPods (which I love, and might not have tried if it weren't for the missing jack). But... no headphone jack on a 13" tablet? I edit movies on there sometimes and I grumble every time I dust off the dongle to plug in a mic for voiceovers. But, no, people criticize Apple for every…

>But... no headphone jack on a 13" tablet? I edit movies on there sometimes and I grumble every time I dust off the dongle to plug in a mic for voiceovers. This is especially dumb from Apple considering the number of pro audio apps marketed for the iPad that require the use of a wired connection for latency reasons. (no, Bluetooth audio will never have low enough latency for music production)

these same pro users are likely going to need more than a single USB port and will likely have dongles with them.
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