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Re: iOS 14 is available today

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I've always arranged my homescreen to be a single screen with folders for each category of app. makes it much easier to find things. I'm always befuddled when I see ppl with 30 pages of apps.

I just swipe down for Spotlight and use that as an app launcher, so I'll probably love the app drawer. I'm equally baffled by people doing it any other way :-) Do you organise your applications on your computer by category as well?

You can also do it by voice. Tell Siri to "open AppName" and it opens the app named AppName.

It does have trouble with some apps, though. Authy does not work at all when pronounced the way I expect it to be pronounced ("auth" as in "authorize"). Siri just says that there is no app named "Offie". And no, I do not pronounce "th" anything at all like "ff".

If I try pronouncing Authy as "oathy" is works maybe 1/4 to 1/3 of the time.

For nearly everything else I've tried, though, it is fine.

Re: iOS 14 is available today

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I've seen this a lot lately. I'm not an app developer, so forgive the ignorance. What was the surprise? The actual release date? Does Apple normally send out an email to devs saying you have 1 week until it drops? From my experience with Apple, the GM was always a closely held secret and divulging knowledge was grounds for loss of Apple privileges. Just curious what is so different this time.

apple never gives us the release day, so we are always biting nails when fatal bugs, or issues are reported, there is little communication from apple... alot people/companies depend on what apple is doing here hisotrically, they announce new stuff, then ios is released about 1 week later (conveyed at the annnouncement) this time, it was one day. alot of us had apps already in testing and preparation, but depending on…

I guess my response would be should Apple hold off releasing a major OS update until it has received thumbs up from every single developer? Of course not. The betas for iOS 14 have been out for a long time now (not sure of specific dates). If your app wasn't ready for GM today, then was it really ever going to be? I would assume Apple expects that after each beta version is released, developers update their code for that version with the hope that it is promoted to GM.

Re: iOS 14 is available today

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Same. Whenever Apple announces a new major version, it’s time for me to disable auto-update on all my Apple devices. iOS 13 was particularly bad and I waited until January. I hope they did a better job with 14.

What exactly problems do people have with iOS 13? I always here some complains here and there. but, as with Catalina, never had any issue. Is it specific apps?

It’s ok now. I still have rotation issues on my iPad where it gets confused and the screen is on its side.

I had an issue on my iPhone X where it was connected to wifi without showing the icon. But there’s plenty written on iOS 13’s bugginess and Apple admitted as much. I would not be surprised that iOS 14 is solid. I rather wait a month to see if that’s the case.

Re: iOS 14 is available today

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> Perhaps that's because you want the wrong thing for some reason. I can't really parse this but from the best sense of it I can get, I reckon the most correct response is, "no, u". [EDIT] Oh and also: > You have never experienced this, so how could you possibly know? Also, no it wouldn't. It's really incredible how often relatively straightforward conversations on HN end up veering, pointlessly, into theory of the m…

> I can't really parse this... Allow me to make it very simple: You didn't give any reasons for your opinion. You just gave your opinion. > ...I reckon the most correct response is, "no, u". If you're used to that sort of argumentation, I suppose that is what you'd reckon. > It's really incredible how often relatively straightforward conversations on HN end up veering, pointlessly, into theory of the mind and epistem…

You explicitly claimed it wouldn't be worse. Consider applying your own standards to that claim.

Consider also that it's possible to assert something without perfect knowledge of its truth. Usually context is sufficient to gather the level of certainty being expressed, or the implicit perspective from which it holds true, without hedging and defensively weakening every little statement.

> > Perhaps that's because you want the wrong thing for some reason.

> Allow me to make it very simple: You didn't give any reasons for your opinion. You just gave your opinion.

I'm glad you translated it because I'd never have gotten the second claim from the first. Phew.

> What about that speaks to "theory of the mind and epistemology" in your opinion?

Your entire objection, which seems to carry some unusual assumptions about the power and utility of thought experiments and the extent of the value of comparing similar, but not identical, things. Notably, it appears to reject them as being to any useful degree, even for evaluating a user-facing OS feature valid or enlightening.

> Gee, I wonder if your whole problem couldn't just be solved by letting you opt into the whole idea of PWA notifications?

Making them opt-in and off by default, ideally with no way for the app to tell whether they're enabled, would be an improvement, but allow me to repeat my reason from my post which, you claim, contained no reasons: I do not want features that make webapps more viable on iOS, because I do not like webapps and prefer an environment that makes me less likely to encounter them for any reason. So simply not having the feature would be even better.

[EDIT] nb. I entirely get disagreement with my position on a variety of grounds, but I find such apparent failure to even engage with it, and rejection that it is a position, harder to understand.

Re: iOS 14 is available today

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It’s a step in the right direction, but honestly, what’s really the point when all browsers are just wrappers around Safari anyway.

That’s a tech-centric view. For most people a browser is defined by its features like tab handling, account syncing, preferences, extensions, etc. Nobody cares about the HTML engine, only developers. The fact that it’s possible to change the default browser is an important user-level feature.

It's true, but I think that's not the point. It's not because people don't care that it won't impact them.

Many people don't care about Privacy, Ecology, etc... yet it will have catastrophic consequences down the line.

Similarly here, yes it's true people don't care about the web engine, yet given Mozilla situation and Microsoft who switched to chromium, the web is seriously not in a good shape and it will have consequences on the long term.

Re: iOS 14 is available today

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I'm not touching that update with a 10 foot pole. Not until it's been live for at least a week, and developers have had a chance to actually update their apps for it! Honestly, that's just good policy on all Apple updates lately. It seems that more and more of them have been plagued with issues and are trailed by hotfixes. I've learned to just wait a while. Other people can be the test guinea pigs!

From a user perspective, this release is super solid. I'm not going to be updating to Big Sur any time soon, but I'm running iOS 14 everywhere now and haven't had any trouble

It has some big issues (first hand). Avoid for a while if you do mission/life critical work on your phone. As for some of the devs saying it is great, many of them have crappy apps. The top devs like Rambo are tweeting to avoid.

Re: iOS 14 is available today

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What's something you wish existed/suggest?

A couple things I would love to see in iMessage having used WhatsApp as my primary messaging app for the past several years: (1) Direct replying/quoting to a specific message. (2) More granular group chat controls (eg ability to add/remove/leave group message threads. (3) Ability to rename group chats so that I don't have 3 chat threads that contain the same first two people plus someone else

Unless I'm mistaken, all three are available on iOS right now. You can reply to a specific message, you can add/remove/leave a group iMessage, and you can name (and emoticon) group chats.

Re: iOS 14 is available today

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Sure, on Android you don't have to worry about updates because you don't get them. (Coming from an Android user)

Pick a manufacturer that gives you timely updates with a support duration you're happy with, and you're fine. And before you complain "it's insane that I have to do that", you've already done that: just you picked Apple. The mistake people make is in thinking of Android as some monolithic, consistent thing. It's not, and can't and won't be. Buy a Google phone, or a Samsung phone, or whatever, and stick with a manufac…

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Re: iOS 14 is available today

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As a user, please no.

As long as you could approve or reject push notifications on a site by site basis, what is the problem here?

Because it’s bad enough every site has a pop up “we use cookies”. Now every site has “allow notifications so we can spam you”.
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