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Re: Apple Fitness+

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When you say "own your fingerprints" what do you mean? What does it mean to own my fingerprints, and how does Apple own them?

They collect our names and biometrics for multi-factor authentication.

In fact they do not collect biometrics. Not even under the NSA’s definition of “collect”.

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I like the idea of Apple Fitness+. That it provides an integrated experience with the watch and another device (iPhone/iPad/Apple TV) is exactly what I’ve been waiting for all these years! No need to create yet another online account on a service that may share (or sell or probably lose) my workout and health information. The workout recommendations are computed on-device, and the data stays on the devices (health da…

I disagree. YET ANOTHER feature that is linked to ONE SINGLE account. If apple decides to block your account, everything is gone. This happened some time ago to my microsoft account - everything gone. And why? Because I have uploaded (automatically) a nude picture of my gf to their cloud, it was detected by their algorithm and my account was locked. I had to communicate with microsoft by a PAPER LETTER(!) to understa…

It can be really tough to see beyond one's own isolated experience, but you are expressing something analogous to a refusal to fly on any airline because one airline lost your ticket. Whilst there's certainly a risk of your ticket being lost, as you found, for 99.99% of people tickets work just fine and are never lost.

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But, there's an argument to be made that they would be cross-shopping $500 Amazon-Prime-deliver-tomorrow bikes, to pair with the Apple ecosystem they already have. I would be scared if I ran Peloton. Their entire MO is the ecosystem; you buy the bike, with the integrated tablet, and use their fitness program. Outside of the top 1% who could drop three grand on the Peloton system without blinking, Apple's whole "$500…

$500 stationary bikes are crap. Apple Fitness is only slightly cheaper than Peloton standalone - $10 vs $13 - so I don't think that would be a factor for many people. The main drive of Peloton if you aren't buying their bike is the instructors and high quality classes - I struggle to imagine many people would care more about watch integration than class quality, and I don't think Apple will be able to win out on the…

You are forgetting families. Peloton is $12 a month, but the workouts are tied to one account - so your wife's workout gets synced to your apple watch.

Also Apple is offering yearly pricing that works out to $6.67/mo...and then there is the bundle which if you are in the ecosystem already essentially makes it a free service...

Re: Apple Fitness+

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I like the idea of Apple Fitness+. That it provides an integrated experience with the watch and another device (iPhone/iPad/Apple TV) is exactly what I’ve been waiting for all these years! No need to create yet another online account on a service that may share (or sell or probably lose) my workout and health information. The workout recommendations are computed on-device, and the data stays on the devices (health da…

i just watched the fitness+ segment. it was so targeted at upper/upper-middle class (white) people, it wasn't even funny (despite, as always, featuring a fair diversity of people). most americans simply don't have the time and mental space to carve out big chunks of time (not to mention living space) to devote $10/mo and a commitment to multiple apple devices that it requires. it's myopic, to say the least. even thou…

Are people not allowed to make products aimed at upper/upper middle class people? Why would that have been anywhere near funny? Why is a luxury brand targeting those with discretionary income short sighted?

Re: Apple Fitness+

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i just watched the fitness+ segment. it was so targeted at upper/upper-middle class (white) people, it wasn't even funny (despite, as always, featuring a fair diversity of people). most americans simply don't have the time and mental space to carve out big chunks of time (not to mention living space) to devote $10/mo and a commitment to multiple apple devices that it requires. it's myopic, to say the least. even thou…

I watched it too and I failed to see how the whiteness of those people was relevant. I can understand how skin pigmentation may correlate with income in the US, but that’s an American problem not a property of the skin colour that Apple are not required to solve

I believe OP is talking about class, not race, and is making the same orthogonal observation as you that race is tied up in class to some extent. But tbh that makes it a strange point to my eye: Apple remains a luxury consumer goods and services manufacturer, it should not be a surprise that they target the upper/middle classes.

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When you say "own your fingerprints" what do you mean? What does it mean to own my fingerprints, and how does Apple own them?

They collect our names and biometrics for multi-factor authentication.

Are you talking about on device authentication or iCloud authentication? The biometrics for unlocking are only stored on device. Your name is associated with your account, yes.

I can’t tell if you’re trolling? You also haven’t said what it means to “own” fingerprints.

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I feel like community is the biggest factor in making these classes work, and that’s not the same as tweeting or sharing your progress or a leaderboard. Can you do these workouts with people, or is it all on-demand?

If you’re going to nix the entire social / community aspect (having a specific appointment where you’ve committed to train with someone can make a massive difference).... How long until we get procedurally generated photorealistic “studio workout” routines which dynamically analyze both your historical and real-time capabilities and performance in order to provide an “optimal” workout pace and progression?

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I disagree. YET ANOTHER feature that is linked to ONE SINGLE account. If apple decides to block your account, everything is gone. This happened some time ago to my microsoft account - everything gone. And why? Because I have uploaded (automatically) a nude picture of my gf to their cloud, it was detected by their algorithm and my account was locked. I had to communicate with microsoft by a PAPER LETTER(!) to understa…

Are nude photos not permitted on iCloud? With the ubiquity of iPhones, it's difficult to believe iCloud isn't filled with nude photos.

They are permitted. My girlfriend and I are often long distance and we share an album. I didn’t know Microsoft had such bogus restrictions.

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Does it matter? As a parent I might upload a private nude picture of my kids which is perfectly fine.

As a parent: That's pretty weird..

Every parent I know (and I'm 28) has photos of their kids running around doing generic kid things while nude, or making weird faces while playing in the bathtub.

The practice finding its way into the modern cloud is completely unsurprising.

Re: Apple Fitness+

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I watched it too and I failed to see how the whiteness of those people was relevant. I can understand how skin pigmentation may correlate with income in the US, but that’s an American problem not a property of the skin colour that Apple are not required to solve

I believe OP is talking about class, not race, and is making the same orthogonal observation as you that race is tied up in class to some extent. But tbh that makes it a strange point to my eye: Apple remains a luxury consumer goods and services manufacturer, it should not be a surprise that they target the upper/middle classes.

Pointing out that someone is white is about race and I don’t see why we should bring race into this.

Are Nike basketball sponsorship deals targeted at black people or are they targeted at the most successful and famous basketball players regardless of their skin pigmentation?

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