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Re: Apple Fitness+

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Was your girlfriend of age? To the best of my knowledge the only thing Microsoft searches for and actions in user uploaded files is content that hits against PhotoDNA. https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/photodna

Does it matter? As a parent I might upload a private nude picture of my kids which is perfectly fine.

As a parent: That's pretty weird..

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Honest question, when was Google any different than they are now. What would have been their business model?

When Google started they sold the platform based on better search results with an interface that didn't put advertiser content above organic results. Now you usutally don't see organic results without scrolling. When Google first started advertising, they didn't have the massive tracking network they have now. Advertising was based on surfacing advertising related to the terms you searched for and was often relevant…

Good answer, thanks!

Re: Apple Fitness+

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Apple just took a huge swing at Peloton and at home fitness startups. Why cycle in place at home with a Peloton instructor, when you can cycle outside with a Fitness+ instructor? Why limit yourself to your stationary Peloton bike at home, when you can use a stationary bike anywhere? Apple can and probability will beat out Lulu Lemon's Mirror on price using motion capture on an AppleTV smartTV or Ipad. Only startup th…

I expect Peloton will integrate with Fitness+, and the arrangement will be quite profitable for both parties.

I'd guess that the Apple ecosystem is very nearly a strict superset of people who have Pelotons, after all.

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They could have made this service a couple of years ago. Why now? I don't think it's a coincidence they announced this now in the midst of COVID. Apple has privileged AppStore data which it can use to identify trends. Then it can just throw a pile of money at making an even better product, with premium integration in the Apple ecosystem, and finally destroy the competition. I guess it can be argued this may be better…

You are incorrect about the time frame on which Apple operates.

The working groups for this offering were forming in late 2018 at the absolute latest.

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> Can't you see where they're going with this? Can you see the slippery slope you're invoking? Apple owns the operating system you use. That is where it stops in your example. They don't force ownership of software, the network stack, the gym you visit (lol), where you work, etc. Where's your head at, other than "ApPlE BaD"?

Apple owns your operating system, your hardware. It sells networking devices, printers, misc. peripherals. It offers service as software replacements, for email, file hosting, navigation, speech recognition. Apple has a marketplace for software. It has a marketplace for books. It has a marketplace for multimedia entertainment. It has its own tv. You can handcuff an apple device to your wrist, and let them own your wa…

When you say "own your fingerprints" what do you mean? What does it mean to own my fingerprints, and how does Apple own them?

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How long until these 'fitness instructors' are animated avatars and new fitness programs can be quickly created programmatically? Following this perhaps programmatically created work outs can eventually be uniquely tailored to the individual workout needs.

Ha! I was wondering what the point of Memoji were... it’s to copy our facial expressions or get us more used to animated faces to warm up to Memoji instructors!

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Do you like the idea of Apple owning the operating system you use, the computer it runs on, all the apps running on that operating system, the entire network stack, all of the network services, the gym you visit, the money you use, the school you attend, the church where you worship, the food that you buy, the place where you work, the hospital where you die? Can't you see where they're going with this?

That's a gross exaggeration of how much pull Apple has. I'm no fan of it or how much data these new devices will collect but saying "the school you attend, the church where you worship" is some Twitter-comments level of hysteria. Yes, we should be worried about corporations owning too much and having too much power. No, Apple isn't going to buy up schools and churches.

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Apple owns your operating system, your hardware. It sells networking devices, printers, misc. peripherals. It offers service as software replacements, for email, file hosting, navigation, speech recognition. Apple has a marketplace for software. It has a marketplace for books. It has a marketplace for multimedia entertainment. It has its own tv. You can handcuff an apple device to your wrist, and let them own your wa…

When you say "own your fingerprints" what do you mean? What does it mean to own my fingerprints, and how does Apple own them?

They collect our names and biometrics for multi-factor authentication.

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I like the idea of Apple Fitness+. That it provides an integrated experience with the watch and another device (iPhone/iPad/Apple TV) is exactly what I’ve been waiting for all these years! No need to create yet another online account on a service that may share (or sell or probably lose) my workout and health information. The workout recommendations are computed on-device, and the data stays on the devices (health da…

i just watched the fitness+ segment. it was so targeted at upper/upper-middle class (white) people, it wasn't even funny (despite, as always, featuring a fair diversity of people). most americans simply don't have the time and mental space to carve out big chunks of time (not to mention living space) to devote $10/mo and a commitment to multiple apple devices that it requires. it's myopic, to say the least.

even though i like and almost exclusively use apple computing devices, i feel apple has jumped the shark as a lifestyle brand. the whole thing feels so fake and overproduced (reiterating this, as it's not the first time feeling this way). the tech and products are still interesting; the marketing and the branding are increasingly not.

fitness+ was a definite turn-off for me.

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Google didn't betray their promise. Android is open source and Apple not Microsoft have open sourced their operating system.

With each new release, more and more parts of Android are reliant on proprietary Google APIs. It is known. If you remove everything Google from Android 19, you'll be surprised how little it can do.

Little as in what? You're being very vague. Do you want to use official Google Apps without the Google APIs? At least the OS is open source, but I can have a very functional device without needing gapps. Same with COS on their cloud platform. Apple is actively preventing users from even installing apps outside their app store.
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