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Re: PinePhone Manjaro Community Edition

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Post by lvs »

slantyyz wrote: post #54

Does anyone know if you can heavily customize the user interface of the PinePhone? The reason why I'm asking is that I have yet to find a feature phone or smartphone that my father (in his 80s) can use. He basically doesn't want to learn new things, and he's more interested in learning/memorizing repeatable steps than intuiting how to do things by reading text on the screen. All he needs is the ability to make/receiv…

This is precisely what I need to find for a parent as well. There are feature phones available for the European market (like the HMD Nokia phones) that probably fit the bill, but nothing that works on American frequencies.

Wireless charging is also incredibly useful as an accessibility feature for older people, but manufacturers only seem to have young people working in their product teams.

Re: PinePhone Manjaro Community Edition

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Post by megous »

lvs wrote: post #130
megous wrote: post #90

Anyway, with all those distros piling up for PinePhone, I finally decided to release p-boot with display support and GUI multi-boot menu. https://xnux.eu/p-boot/ I'll make some multi-boot SD card demo image next, perhaps with postmarket, arch linux, mobian and ubuntu touch. :)

This is great work. How close are we to a "just works" open source phone targeted for end-users?

If it's "just phone", then pretty close, I think.

If it's Android/iOS replacement, then not at all.

Re: PinePhone Manjaro Community Edition

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Post by megous »

tpxl wrote: post #127
megous wrote: post #96

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Icenowy did the initial board bringup, I think: https://github.com/Icenowy I don't know if Samuel accepts donations, but his contact info is here: https://sholland.org/about/ (he's responsible for the huge power saving optimizations that PinePhone got this year, and for the sound codec improvements, that were necessary for making calls work) And I have a page here: https://xnux.eu/contribute.html As for the mobian I…

I meant code contributions, but thanks for the links ;)

Ah, you can contribute just by doing something for the project you're interested in. None of the development is centrally organized.

There's plenty of stuff to do. I can give you a bunch of hints if you're a kernel dev. :)

Re: PinePhone Manjaro Community Edition

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Post by MartijnBraam »

brtln wrote: post #73
MayeulC wrote: post #65

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> Every time the Pine64/Pinephone stuff gets mentioned You probably mean Manjaro/Pinephone or something like this, I initially thought you equated Pinephone with Manjaro. (hint for others: it is not, there are a various other compatible distros). I agree that Arch Arm upstream does a pretty good job, though that packaging job is 70% orthogonal to, say, alpine+postmarketos packaging :)

I believe postmarketOS team closely collaborates with Alpine. It cannot be said about Manjaro, neither in relation to Arch or Arch ARM.

we definetly try to upstream as much to Alpine as possible. Also postmarketOS basically maintains KDE in Alpine

Re: PinePhone Manjaro Community Edition

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Post by mayama »

ISL wrote: post #34
deepstack wrote: post #29

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I wish PinePhone would partner with Arch or Debian instead. Word. Debian is great! In the past when I see people using Ubuntu, I always wondered why? It is so interesting how people in tech just fall into the fashion trap.

My probably-flawed remembrance of the situation, as a Debian (2001+)/Gentoo(2004-8) user: Canonical showed up to the party with a substantial concerted and sustained effort of funding/developers to take the existing Debian framework and make it more user-friendly. In particular, Ubuntu was willing to package substantially non-free software into the experience. Things like Flash just worked most of the time. There was…

Getting wifi and sound working with new laptops was a chore or hit and miss with Debian or Fedora at the time. Ubuntu worked on a lot of these issues.

Re: PinePhone Manjaro Community Edition

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Post by happycube »

joecool1029 wrote: post #27
DoofusOfDeath wrote: post #7

Can someone help me understand the relationship between phone hardware and carriers in the US? I recently bought a new, unlocked Samsung phone on Amazon. When I put a Verizon SIM card into it, a Verizon-specific firmware module got added. I don't understand why that would be necessary. Asking because I'm attracted to the idea of a phone I truly control, but not sure what that means for carrier compatibility.

T-Mobile and Verizon should allow any modern device. Verizon used to need a activation conponent for the CDMA radio but modern devices just use LTE and voLTE. They did have a visual voicemail blob that used to be pulled in, but now they follow spec and don't require anything special. Sprint (which is now T-Mobile) has required an activation app for their CDMA devices called SprintDM. Without it, phone will not activa…

Once AT&T goes VoLTE only they're going to have a limited list of accepted phones. sigh

I still remember being at RadioShack and glancing at the Verizon section and thinking "hey, it's the island of misfit phones!"

Re: PinePhone Manjaro Community Edition

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Post by symlinkk »

mkesper wrote: post #47
dx87 wrote: post #44

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> In the past when I see people using Ubuntu, I always wondered why? Because I don't have a wired internet connection, and my wifi adapter requires proprietary drivers. If I could just download and install from an ISO like I can with Ubuntu, I'd switch to Debian in a heartbeat, but I don't feel like having to do manual workarounds just to get a running Linux distro.

use one of the (unofficial) images containing non-free firmware: https://cdimage.debian.org/images/unofficial/non-free/images...

> unofficial

And there lies the problem.

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