Anyone actually using this as a daily driver? I am completely Apple free except for the the phone. I would love to be able to ditch that.
PinePhone Manjaro Community Edition
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Re: PinePhone Manjaro Community Edition
#82Does anyone know if you can heavily customize the user interface of the PinePhone? The reason why I'm asking is that I have yet to find a feature phone or smartphone that my father (in his 80s) can use. He basically doesn't want to learn new things, and he's more interested in learning/memorizing repeatable steps than intuiting how to do things by reading text on the screen. All he needs is the ability to make/receiv…
Sounds like a feature phone would be a much better fit for him than a smartphone. Maybe pick out 2-3 to look at and have him choose one. Bonus is they're much cheaper.
Most feature phones available right now are pretty much the same, and they rely on rocker buttons and arrow keys for navigation, which he can't or won't pick up.
Right now he has a Nokia feature phone (which has virtually the same user experience as his older off-brand feature phone), and even that is too complicated for him to properly learn how to use.
Re: PinePhone Manjaro Community Edition
#83Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sounds like a feature phone would be a much better fit for him than a smartphone. Maybe pick out 2-3 to look at and have him choose one. Bonus is they're much cheaper.
Most feature phones available right now are pretty much the same, and they rely on rocker buttons and arrow keys for navigation, which he can't or won't pick up. Right now he has a Nokia feature phone (which has virtually the same user experience as his older off-brand feature phone), and even that is too complicated for him to properly learn how to use.
Sorry, I somehow missed the sentence about feature phones in your original comment.
Re: PinePhone Manjaro Community Edition
#84Does anyone know if you can heavily customize the user interface of the PinePhone? The reason why I'm asking is that I have yet to find a feature phone or smartphone that my father (in his 80s) can use. He basically doesn't want to learn new things, and he's more interested in learning/memorizing repeatable steps than intuiting how to do things by reading text on the screen. All he needs is the ability to make/receiv…
Why a smartphone? A Nokia 101 (or whichever model above it which has Bluetooth) seems like a much better fit.
He already has a Nokia feature phone.
The problem is that a feature phone has more features than he needs, and sometimes requires navigation to perform a task.
Also, some of the physical controls are rockers, which he doesn't seem to grasp.
If I could at least limit him to a phone app (with no easy way to get to the home screen) with discrete buttons for almost everything and almost no navigation, I think he'd be able to get by better than he does now.
Re: PinePhone Manjaro Community Edition
#85Does anyone know if you can heavily customize the user interface of the PinePhone? The reason why I'm asking is that I have yet to find a feature phone or smartphone that my father (in his 80s) can use. He basically doesn't want to learn new things, and he's more interested in learning/memorizing repeatable steps than intuiting how to do things by reading text on the screen. All he needs is the ability to make/receiv…
I only know Doro feature phones (and am impressed by how easy to use they are, especially for those who don't see well and have trouble hitting small buttons), but it seems that they make smartphones too: > Age should never be a reason for not being able to enjoy all that a modern smartphone has to offer. Our stylish smartphones bring you not only the full Android® experience and an elegant design, but also unique fe…
I have checked out Doro in the past and gotten him a similar "seniors" phone (that worked with local carriers here), and it didn't really take.
I've tried having him use a "simplified" home screen on one of my old Android phones, and that didn't work very well either.
Personally, as far as "smartphones" go, I think he needs something without a home screen, and a phone app (that can't easily exit to a home screen) with a recognizable skeuomorphic UI with minimal navigation and lots of discrete buttons for performing the few actions he needs.
Re: PinePhone Manjaro Community Edition
#86I personally would avoid anything Manjaro related due to recurring controversies around the project leadership: https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/hxpj87/change_in_man... I wish PinePhone would partner with Arch or Debian instead.
I wish PinePhone would partner with Arch or Debian instead. Word. Debian is great! In the past when I see people using Ubuntu, I always wondered why? It is so interesting how people in tech just fall into the fashion trap.
>I always wondered why?
for me personally easier to use installer, proprietary driver/codec support out of the box, faster release cycle, debian stable is too old for me and unstable can break at at all times/doesn't receive any major updates before new releases and so on. Also Ubuntu for the longest time used to be the only distro shipping with good font rendering settings, staring at code all day this actually was fairly important to me
so basically Ubuntu 'just works', if I ran Debian I'd just replicate Ubuntu's default settings pretty much anyway so I can just save myself the few hours.
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#87I pre-ordered the PmOS community edition, and it's getting delivered tomorrow. From what I can tell, this is the same HW, but without a different distro pre-loaded. I'm super-stoked to try out the different distros, and will definitely give Manjaro a shot too :)
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Re: PinePhone Manjaro Community Edition
#88Earlier quoted context omitted.
I wish PinePhone would partner with Arch or Debian instead. Word. Debian is great! In the past when I see people using Ubuntu, I always wondered why? It is so interesting how people in tech just fall into the fashion trap.
>I always wondered why? for me personally easier to use installer, proprietary driver/codec support out of the box, faster release cycle, debian stable is too old for me and unstable can break at at all times/doesn't receive any major updates before new releases and so on. Also Ubuntu for the longest time used to be the only distro shipping with good font rendering settings, staring at code all day this actually was…
Unstable aka Sid receives updates always, I think your thinking of Testing which goes into a freeze period before each major release of Debian.
Sid has been quite stable for me, the packages are much newer than Ubuntu (generally on par with Arch or close to it) and the few noteworthy bugs I have seen over the years have been reported and handled within 24 to 48hrs of said package being updated with the problematic code.
Re: PinePhone Manjaro Community Edition
#89I personally would avoid anything Manjaro related due to recurring controversies around the project leadership: https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/hxpj87/change_in_man... I wish PinePhone would partner with Arch or Debian instead.
I wish PinePhone would partner with Arch or Debian instead. Word. Debian is great! In the past when I see people using Ubuntu, I always wondered why? It is so interesting how people in tech just fall into the fashion trap.
It is so interesting how people in tech jump to baseless conclusions about others' behavior that differs from their own...
Personally, I shifted to Ubuntu since it removed headaches re: getting a system running out of the box. By the time i shifted in ~2011 I had already transitioned through SLS -> Slackware -> RedHat -> Debian over the 1993-2011 period. After 18 years, Ubuntu brought relief in that I didn't have to deal with fiddling with things to get a system up and running. At that point the fun-factor of fiddling with the system had worn off and I was mostly concerned with getting work done, which Ubuntu addressed. Last time I tried Debian (~4 years ago?), it felt like it had caught up in terms of the out-of-the-box experience, which was nice.
Re: PinePhone Manjaro Community Edition
#90Anyway, with all those distros piling up for PinePhone, I finally decided to release p-boot with display support and GUI multi-boot menu.
I'll make some multi-boot SD card demo image next, perhaps with postmarket, arch linux, mobian and ubuntu touch. :)