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China Built a Vast New Infrastructure to Imprison Uighurs

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Re: China Built a Vast New Infrastructure to Imprison Uighurs

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Post by magicsmoke »

maxwell wrote: post #229
tobyhinloopen wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you rallying? I perfectly understand why people aren’t rallying: it’s happening on the other side of the planet. What are we supposed to do?

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Well they did. https://newspunch.com/american-companies-nazi-germany/

This continued up until the US actually declared war on Germany. Countries don't particularly care what other countries do in their borders. It's only when they start threatening other countries that you'll see hard actions taken.

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Post by wycy »

logicchains wrote: post #304
take_a_breath wrote: post #286

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oddly, you failed to mention all of Europe. they have a lower unemployment rate than the US [1]. [1] https://www.aa.com.tr/en/economy/unemployment-rate-in-eu-ris...

Looks like from your link it's 7.1%. For the no lockdown states on https://www.aier.org/article/unemployment-far-worse-in-lockd... , it's around 6%.

A single percentage point difference in unemployment data versus versus thousands of deaths. And comparing dense European countries to rural red states. Your data is devastating to your point.

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Post by publicola1990 »

The thing is, there is a definite anti China sentiment within the present US government and many western media sources, in the sense that they seem to have a definite desire to villify China in recent times.

So the claims presented by them are suspect in intent, since it seems so evidently to suit their own world view.

While Chinese propaganda is suspect as is any propaganda, much western reporting is also politically informed and therefore suspect.

Most reports on this topic going around are not from people on ground, whereas western media including Reuters and BBC surely have people on ground in China, what have we heard from them in actuality?

Recently BBC had people sent to such a camp and even filmed it. Surely there is some political indoctrination going on, but nothing like the 'Concentration Camps' as is being claimed in this article.

https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-asia-china-48667221

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Post by ArtDev »

xupybd wrote: post #75
jialutu wrote: post #43

Do you guys remember when a Chinese soldier beat up someone who was holding the Koran? Well, except, it didn't happen: https://factcheck.afp.com/no-not-video-chinese-soldier-beati... Also, when are people going to stop using satellite imaging as a proof of evidence? I mean, let's not forget the whole casus belli for the last Iraq war, where there was clear evidence of WMDs from all those satellite images right? I mea…

The Chinese people are great. The country is awesome but the current government is tyrannical. We know that millions died under Mao yet he is still praised. That alone is enough for me to distrust the CCP.

This sums up my feelings about it as well. I have been to China. I know Tibetans with heartbreaking stories about the direct impacts of government tyranny.

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Post by mas3god »

croes wrote: post #157
DrBazza wrote: post #26

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Well... everyone could stop buying stuff on Amazon when you know it's mostly made in China, but then again everyone wants cheap 'stuff' (and iPhones).

And than? The whole system depends on cheap supply of goods. Look what happend during the lookdown in China And it's not people want cheap stuff, most only can afford cheap stuff. Money is a finite source, the more some people have, the less have others.

We can get cheaper goods from other developing nations

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Post by chub500 »

banmeagaindan2 wrote: post #177
germinalphrase wrote: post #109

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Are they our values if we don’t stand up for them?

Values! Let's talk about what is happening this minute. Somebody just talked to me and then disappeared. All sorts of people with political opinions are self editing and deleting their own comments - or being banned or shadowbanned because their opinions don't fit consensus. It is difficult for anybody to stand for their values in these conditions. China does not pretend to be a politically free society - but I belie…

There's a big difference between government censorship and internet company censorship. Both are problematic but other than that they aren't in the same league.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_websites_blocked_in_...

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Post by mas3god »

Razengan wrote: post #260
blindspot557 wrote: post #233

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe because they are already rallying for BLM? Americans are too busy before the election.

BLM and US police brutality has already been replaced by the Belarusian protests, even in Wikipedia's Ongoing events. I guess everything's fine now.

Maybe the world has shifted its gaze but BLM protests are still going strong out here

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Post by Aunche »

TheUndead96 wrote: post #2

To those that believe that they would not have turned a blind eye during WWII to the systematic extermination of Jews, the current generation has been given a similar challenge. Where is your cancel-culture now? How will our children think of us?

We invaded Nazi Germany in response to their own invasion. Nobody is willing spend their effort to stop genocide unless they have another motive. For example, I only hear about the Rohingya genocide when people use it as an argument to break up Facebook.

Re: China Built a Vast New Infrastructure to Imprison Uighurs

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Post by mas3god »

waihtis wrote: post #30
tobyhinloopen wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you rallying? I perfectly understand why people aren’t rallying: it’s happening on the other side of the planet. What are we supposed to do?

Meanwhile, Europe was filled with BLM protests.

What a joke, people are protesting the shitty police in the US.

Re: China Built a Vast New Infrastructure to Imprison Uighurs

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Post by take_a_breath »

logicchains wrote: post #304
take_a_breath wrote: post #286

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oddly, you failed to mention all of Europe. they have a lower unemployment rate than the US [1]. [1] https://www.aa.com.tr/en/economy/unemployment-rate-in-eu-ris...

Looks like from your link it's 7.1%. For the no lockdown states on https://www.aier.org/article/unemployment-far-worse-in-lockd... , it's around 6%.

The data you are giving is from early-May, it’s almost September.
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