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Vice also went undercover last year to get footage of Xinjiang in-person: https://youtu.be/v7AYyUqrMuQ
"Individuals cannot accept interviews without government approval." [12:06] Does anyone know if this is a law?
If they were actual camps, can someone explain why they were all empty? No cars, no trucks, no detainees, no guards at all? To supply and run a crowded camp, you need guards and logistics. Nothing there. Nowadays, researchers could easily obtain satellites images showing actual activities with all those clues. Just by looking at the images, it not possible to draw conclusion they were concentration camps. They could…
The authors and their teams clearly took into consideration that these could be military bases and they talk about it to some extant. I'm sure it could still be the case that some of these are barracks and the Chinese make their barracks look like detention centers. Some of the locations they found have been verified by other sources though.
We also have that drone footage of detainees being transported, right?
Also, the leaked document from the NYTimes talked an awful lot about security, not letting people escape, and not letting images or information of the camps be leaked for a normal vocational school.
The Wuhan hospital parking lot study was pretty bad, but worse things have come out of Harvard Medical School in recent months.
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China's social media army is out in force on that Twitter thread. Deflect, Deny, Discredit.
Everyone that disagrees with you is a shill. What an enlightened mind you have. EDIT: reply to comment below. What's DRP? The existence of real shills doesn't give you free reign to cover your ears and yell shill any time you hear an opposing opinion (I've never seen the people who cry shill do so when it's someone that agrees with them). I could easily call you a shill but that doesn't get us anywhere. Focus on the…
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> The result is that the vast majority of official members of 'ethnic minorities' have virtually, or actually no connection with the ethnic culture, but get full say in how their 'minority' is represented and treated Your whole last paragraph was genuinely interesting and not something I've heard of before. Do you have a source I could read for more information?
This phenomenon is certainly not limited to China. Elizabeth Warren is the public example who comes to mind, although I suspect that many of us know people who claim particular backgrounds for their personal advantage.
I'm still baffled that some people, even here, think this is all made up propaganda from the West. Despite tons and tons of evidence. Kind of reminds me of how it must have been with people in denial about the early Nazi concentration camps, and Holodomor. I'm not saying this is as brutal as what the Nazis did (at least as far as we know,) just drawing parallels to the pure denialism or marking it up as pure exaggera…
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The section on separatism is unadulterated pro-authoritarianism. Examples of regions that have peacefully seceded from a nation abound. Norway from Sweden, Greenland and Iceland from Denmark, multiple states from the former Soviet Union. Scotland had a referendum on independence recently and though they chose to stay part of the UK, there was no threat or chance of violence. Freedom to seceded, or coerced union are b…
> It's oppressive enough of minorities just in the relatively peaceful areas I've visited. What first-hand things (that you saw for yourself) can you use to corroborate this?
My wife is native Han but about a third of her relatives are officially minorities. None of them speak the minority language or read the script or have anything to do with minority culture. Minority script is used all over the place, but I talked to a university lecturer that’s a friend of the family, he told me most of the signs are gibberish, and told me how to spot ones that had been put up upside down. It’s a farce.
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I've been to China numerous times, my Mandarin sucks, I stand out, and I went wherever I wanted. Didn't try to go to Xinjiang, admittedly. There's paperwork that says you have to check in with local authorities wherever you go, tell them what hotel you're staying at, and all this other stuff, but nobody actually does it. If you caused trouble, it'd probably be held against you after the fact is all. There's no reason…
> There's paperwork that says you have to check in with local authorities wherever you go, tell them what hotel you're staying at, and all this other stuff, but nobody actually does it. That's wrong: if you're staying in a hotel, they're doing the paperwork for you. You only have to do it yourself if you're staying in a private residence.
I personally stayed at plenty of places without giving them my ID.
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Everyone that disagrees with you is a shill. What an enlightened mind you have. EDIT: reply to comment below. What's DRP? The existence of real shills doesn't give you free reign to cover your ears and yell shill any time you hear an opposing opinion (I've never seen the people who cry shill do so when it's someone that agrees with them). I could easily call you a shill but that doesn't get us anywhere. Focus on the…
Do you deny that the DRP gov't is directly or indirectly paying many thousands of people to wage a vast information war on social media?