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Blanked-out spots on China's maps helped us uncover Xinjiang's camps

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Re: Blanked-out spots on China's maps helped us uncover Xinjiang's camps

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Post by gus_massa »

propertymagnate wrote: post #39
crispyporkbites wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Disproportionately purchase items made in your own country. Encourage others to do the same. Vote for government officials who encourage similar policies, write to government official who do not. Start/join action groups, engage in political debate at all levels. Start / invest in a local manufacturing company, run for local office, run for president, get rich and invest in local brands.

These are excellent suggestions. I've been wishing for some kind of "made in democracy" stamp, or a "produced humanly" if that would also shut out other more moderate manufacturing centres, similar to fair trade chocolate. https://www.fairtradeamerica.org/shop-fairtrade/fairtrade-pr...

> "made in democracy"

Many countries have a fake democracy cover. Even Hitler won an election with like the 99% of the votes (I wonder if the other 1% survived for too long.)

Also, does this label apply to the United Kingdom or Canada?

Re: Blanked-out spots on China's maps helped us uncover Xinjiang's camps

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Post by throwaway4good »

jjcon wrote: post #40
throwaway4good wrote: post #30

"Alison Killing conducted this reporting with a grant and further assistance from the Open Technology Fund." From wikipedia: "As of November 2019, the Open Technology Fund became an independent nonprofit corporation and a grantee of the U.S. Agency for Global Media.[7] Until its formation as an independent entity, it had operated as a program of Radio Free Asia." Radio Free Asia ... founded by the CIA and a today wel…

Coming from an account created six hours ago it is kinda ironic you are suggesting they are a state actor with no refutation of the premises.

It is public information.

Re: Blanked-out spots on China's maps helped us uncover Xinjiang's camps

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Post by augustt »

gowld wrote: post #45
throwaway69123 wrote: post #25

How as a consumer do I avoid the moral dread of buying made in China when 99% of everything is made in China.

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> the Uighurs in China aren't treated worse than blacks in USA

I'm gonna stop you there. At the very least you can speak up in the USA without getting disappeared.

Re: Blanked-out spots on China's maps helped us uncover Xinjiang's camps

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Post by userbinator »

tosh wrote: post #13

interesting related read: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Restrictions_on_geographic_dat...

The US probably has a more complete map of China than China itself, thanks to things like https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20845111

Re: Blanked-out spots on China's maps helped us uncover Xinjiang's camps

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Post by person_of_color »

Razengan wrote: post #8

Speaking of maps, I've always wondered what's in that huge, mostly-unlabeled region that is more than half of Russia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geography_of_Russia It looks like it could comfortably fit a few countries and then some. Even when watching history documentaries there's a period where Russia is basically a thin strip at the western edge of its current territory, before suddenly and inexplicably blowin…

Filled with cryptids.

Re: Blanked-out spots on China's maps helped us uncover Xinjiang's camps

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Post by ardy42 »

throwaway4good wrote: post #30

"Alison Killing conducted this reporting with a grant and further assistance from the Open Technology Fund." From wikipedia: "As of November 2019, the Open Technology Fund became an independent nonprofit corporation and a grantee of the U.S. Agency for Global Media.[7] Until its formation as an independent entity, it had operated as a program of Radio Free Asia." Radio Free Asia ... founded by the CIA and a today wel…

> Radio Free Asia ... founded by the CIA and a today well oiled propaganda arm for whatever is on the US government's foreign policy agenda.

Eh, not so much:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_Free_Asia

> RFA is the only station outside China that broadcasts in the Uygur-language.[32] It has been recognized for played a vital role in exposing Xinjiang re-education camps.[33][34][35] The New York Times regards RFA as one of the few reliable sources of information about Xinjiang.

My understanding is that RFA, RFE, VOA, etc. are basically meant to promote the idea free independent press in areas where only heavy-handed propaganda is available, and the propaganda value is in undermining blatant propaganda.

Re: Blanked-out spots on China's maps helped us uncover Xinjiang's camps

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Post by areactnativedev »

FranOntanaya wrote: post #9
Razengan wrote: post #8

Speaking of maps, I've always wondered what's in that huge, mostly-unlabeled region that is more than half of Russia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geography_of_Russia It looks like it could comfortably fit a few countries and then some. Even when watching history documentaries there's a period where Russia is basically a thin strip at the western edge of its current territory, before suddenly and inexplicably blowin…

Horseflies.

Nice summary of the above indeed

"The boreal forest, or taiga, supports a relatively small range of animals due to the harshness of the climate. Canada's boreal forest includes 85 species of mammals, 130 species of fish, and an estimated 32,000 species of insects."

Re: Blanked-out spots on China's maps helped us uncover Xinjiang's camps

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Post by free_rms »

jjcon wrote: post #40
throwaway4good wrote: post #30

"Alison Killing conducted this reporting with a grant and further assistance from the Open Technology Fund." From wikipedia: "As of November 2019, the Open Technology Fund became an independent nonprofit corporation and a grantee of the U.S. Agency for Global Media.[7] Until its formation as an independent entity, it had operated as a program of Radio Free Asia." Radio Free Asia ... founded by the CIA and a today wel…

Coming from an account created six hours ago it is kinda ironic you are suggesting they are a state actor with no refutation of the premises.

There are tons and tons of Chinese immigrants in our industry. It's not a stretch at all to assume that some read hacker news and are nationalistic. Assume good faith.

Re: Blanked-out spots on China's maps helped us uncover Xinjiang's camps

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Post by flak48 »

tyingq wrote: post #11

The story seems to counter the popular view that BuzzFeed is low brow, low effort journalism. Did they have some kind of campaign to get better?

Buzzfeed News has a lot of excellent journalism. Even in its non US editions, like India for example. They cover a lot of important stories that the mainstream outlets refuse to touch.

Like other comments have already mentioned Buzzfeed (not Buzzfeed News) is the low effort listicle / clickbait part of the business which is unfortunately better known (mostly for pioneering the entire "10 things... you won't believe number 7" genre)

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