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Post by romanoderoma »

scarface74 wrote: post #380
romanoderoma wrote: post #356

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AFAIK as a former blackberry user (my job required to use one to adhere to our clients' security protocols) 2013 was the peak year for Blackberry

https://www.blackberry.com/us/en/company/newsroom/press-rele... $94 million income. RIM was definitely in decline by then. Both the iOS and Android market were very much mature 7 years after the iPhone was introduced.

"At its peak in September 2013, there were 85 million BlackBerry subscribers worldwide."

I never said that they made more money but that the platform was generally better for executives

In 2012 I had a blackberry because clients that had strict security rules (one of them was in the diamonds business) allowed blackberrys but not other smartphones in their offices

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Post by partiallypro »

bloblaw wrote: post #84
partiallypro wrote: post #79

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a) Global market share is irrelevant, show US share, which is about 51/49 b) Apple makes up the plurality of all store revenues, despite having a smaller install base both globally and in the US. c) You can display monopolistic/duopoly behavior without having 100% of the market.

a) It's an opinion that global market share is irrelevant, but I will report the fact that Apple has 58% USA market share. b) source? c) But can Apple be a monopoly with 58% of the market and a trillion dollar competitor with 41% of that market...and 75% control of the global market? A question for the courts, for sure, but it certainly isn't obvious to me. reference: https://gs.statcounter.com/vendor-market-share/mo…

Apple users spend 80% more on apps than Android users, and that's using global numbers which makes the number even more staggering.

https://fueled.com/blog/app-store-vs-google-play/#:~:text=Ap...

https://www.statista.com/chart/14590/app-downloads-and-consu...

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Post by parasubvert »

romanoderoma wrote: post #377
parasubvert wrote: post #374

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> The HW device is not theirs. The software is theirs. It’s already been legally established that they’re allowed to create HW that only runs their software. > [Amazon] have no say of what's inside the box. That is untrue. If amazon doesn’t like a supplier, or what’s in a suppliers box, they can and will cut that supplier off from being able to sell on their store. They have done this before at their own whim. > Appl…

> The software is theirs. You are wrong The case against Apple is based on three principle - first sale doctrine: when I buy something I have the rights of redestributing it. Apple disallow it - Any dependency on the future versions and upgrades for a proprietary software package can create vendor lock-in, entrenching a monopoly position. - they have the rights to make software that only run on their hardware, the op…

Well, all I can say is “good luck”, you have expressed limited understanding of how software licensing and related contract law works in Europe or the USA.

For example there is no first sale doctrine in software as you never bought the software, you an acquired a license. “redistribution of software” is forbidden called “software piracy” and usually against any commercial software license agreement. Free software and copyleft were created as an alternative to this.

People can do what they want with the HW, and jailbreak the SW (which runs afoul of the iOS EULA and the DMCA in the USA but this isn’t enforced heavily by Apple).... but Apple has no legal obligation to make it easy for 3rd party OSes to run on the HW, or 3rd party app stores.

There has been a 3rd party App Store on iPhone for 12+ years (Cydia) but the Jailbreak dance made it hard to gain mainstream attention.

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Post by jazzdev »

diffeomorphism wrote: post #301
bloblaw wrote: post #81

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> They should create legislation to control access to all app stores to prevent this rent seeking You have a lot of faith in 60+ year old (mostly tech-illiterate men) to fix technology they don't understand. Government isn't the solution to this problem. Developers leaving the app store is probably only what will get Apple to change.

I have faith that politicians can task experts to come up with legislation. Politicians are of course not experts in all subject matters and one should not expect them to be. Developers leave the app store for which alternative on iOS?

I think that's called regulatory capture when politicians task experts to come up with legislation.

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Post by Marsymars »

pseudalopex wrote: post #373
Marsymars wrote: post #237

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Well I've got some specific points for each of them: Maps: Google Maps is drastically better from a POI standpoint, particularly for reviews, as it's become the de facto standard for restaurant reviews in my locale, while Apple Maps just imports the graveyard of Yelp reviews, and GMaps is mildly better for routing. That being said, Google Maps has ads, which is enough for me that I'd preferentially pay for Apple Maps…

Siri doesn't work locally.

Hm, seems you're right - I think what I must have been remembering was comparing control of home automation products via Alexa/Google (voice and app are similarly responsive) to non-voice HomeKit control. (But even Siri voice seems more responsive than e.g. Alexa voice for Hue, presumably because commands just bounce to Apple and back to me, rather than to Amazon, then to Philips, then back to me.)

I don't actually use voice control on phone, so I guess what I actually want on my Android phone is just HomeKit, and not Siri. (Would also let me switch my camera to HomeKit Secure Video, which I can't practically use with my primary carry being an Android phone, despite owning all of the prerequisites.)

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Post by jjeaff »

stephenr wrote: post #216
jjeaff wrote: post #199

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There's a little more to wsl2 than just a VM. It's lighter and partially integrated. More like a VM running alongside windows instead of on top of windows.

> More like a VM running alongside windows instead of on top of windows. It's not like that, it literally is that, because to enable WSL2 you end up running Windows itself on top of Hyper-V, and the Linux VM as a parallel VM. > It's lighter and partially integrated. I don't know what you think it's "lighter" than - it's a VM running on Hyper-V.

Lighter in that Hyper-V is lighter than VirtualBox.

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Post by stephenr »

jjeaff wrote: post #386
stephenr wrote: post #216

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> More like a VM running alongside windows instead of on top of windows. It's not like that, it literally is that, because to enable WSL2 you end up running Windows itself on top of Hyper-V, and the Linux VM as a parallel VM. > It's lighter and partially integrated. I don't know what you think it's "lighter" than - it's a VM running on Hyper-V.

Lighter in that Hyper-V is lighter than VirtualBox.

Given that with WSL/Hyper-V you'll be running Windows in a VM permanently, and WSL.. whenever it thinks you need it (maybe always too?) while Vbox you can just stop when you wish, it seems weird to refer to one as "lighter".

They're very different approaches with different tradeoffs for each.

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