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Activists find camera inside box on power pole near union organizer’s home

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Teenage targeted publications are actually pretty common ground for extremist viewpoints. It’s an audience pretty receptive to new ideas. Not having “adult responsibilities” nor having to really be a functioning member of society in general makes Marxism, Ayn Rand Capitalism, etc all pretty palatable and reasonable ideas (albeit normally to different cliques).

Fox and old white man media generally seems chock full of extremist propaganda and to have a throughly receptive audience. Frankly I think you're reguritating a Fox talking point.

What the GP meant was that homeowners generally don't protest in the streets because they have too much to lose.

It doesn't cost a homeowner anything to watch Fox news, regardless of how extreme it is (or isn't these days.) Although ironically it's the left's identity politics that is subverting Western Civilization.

Also ironic is that while BLM protests brought attention to police officer abuse, the issue is with police union power. In a previous HN post I explained why that's unlikely to be fixed because of how the power structure between DA's and police unions is constructed.

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most society sectors that happens to be outside America

https://www.google.com/search?q=police+beatings+europe&sourc...

ah, lazily sourced anecdotes presented as data, pinnacle hn

third image is already from 2014, not an impressive case density then, is it?

Re: Activists find camera inside box on power pole near union organizer’s home

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When I was younger a friends parent worked for an LEA that did this to spy on people suspected of social security disabilities fraud. This was in the mid 1990’s, he showed me pictures of literally this exact thing high voltage sticker and all.

The high voltage sticker is ubiquitous. It's not representative of anything other than what it stands for: "high voltage". If anything else it might be a decoy to scare away ... maybe nobody that would matter.

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Not ironic at all. Police are the agents of capital and their union is thus in service of capital, not labor. They are conspicuously the only union which isn't protested very much by the powers that be. The union protects police from retribution by the people against whom they mete out punishment, who are essentially never capitalists. To put it another way, there is zero solidarity between police unions and unions o…

Police are not agents of capital. They are agents of the government and nothing more. Police make a modest government salary and do not (at least in the US) have a history of reacting well to bribes. Police meet out punishment all of the time to capitalists (a.k.a people with retirement accounts and savings accounts). I’m not sure why you think otherwise.

And since government has always sided with capital against labor, it usually amounts to police serving capital, at least in matters of capital VS labor.

Remember that the US has a history of using police and even armed forces to crush unions and strikes.

Re: Activists find camera inside box on power pole near union organizer’s home

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Unions bring far more good to society than bad to society. They have given the non-landed class of people a life that even a century ago was unheard of. Countries that have decent levels of union involvement have much better working conditions and standard of living than countries that don't. Blaming unions for failed companies is incredibly flimsy argument against unions as a whole. Sure there are unions that contri…

The OP said it was never in a union’s interest to harm a company. And I provided counter arguments where they did exactly that. Unions reward mediocrity and the self interest of the union leaders at the expense of society as a whole. You pay a union worker more, that means that everyone else pays for it through higher prices. They also diminish the agency of the individual. Everyone is average. The US has a union mem…

I am sorry if I misinterpreted what you were saying.

But we do seem to have diametrically opposed views.

You pay a union worker more, that means that everyone else pays for it through higher prices.

You pay a union member more and they put more into the economy creating more opportunities for local business - the economy is circular.

Union membership has taken a nose dive since the 1980s which also correlates with the nose dive in share of company profit with workers. Insecure work is at much higher levels now which again correlates strongly with this.

I'm not arguing that union's have their fair share of mediocre workers, I would argue that they protect all worker's including the mediocre ones and it's better to protect everyone than no-one.

I would argue that there are just as many mediocre workers in non-unionised workplaces, they are everywhere and being in a union is not a predictor of this.

We get mad at businesses for monopolies, yet a union is a monopoly on labor.

I also disagree with your stance regarding unions create a monopoly, this makes no sense. It's the same as asking medium sized companies to break up into smaller companies because they have too much power - unions give poor workers some negotiating power rather than none which on the whole produces better results for society.

Silicon valley comment - is an outlier / strawman , I'm not advocating programmers who are making outlier amounts of money need to implement collective bargaining (which see below is different from a union).

You talk about unions as though they are a monolithic organisation and all unions are the same, this is certainly not the case.

I've been a member of a union for five years now, I treat it as a democratic institution that makes society stronger it keeps a balance between capital and labour.

I do not agree with the direction that the union takes sometimes but that's ok, it's democratic and I believe collectively we can work together and make things better.

I don't belong to a union that stops non-unionised workforce but I am in a union that demands and fights for minimum conditions for all workers especially the most vulnerable. I have never been part of industrial action either!

I've worked non-union workplaces including startups, commercial property, travel, professional services and I'm currently now working at a university. I don't fit into any of the categories that you have mentioned of a union worker. I am certainly not mediocre or average in my workplace.

And unemployment rate? Before corona skewed everything, the US unemployment rate was below 4%. In Sweden? Close to 7%.

I don't live in the US but I look with utter fear that my country will follow America's workplace relations. Sure it works well if you earn good money (see Silicon valley worker) but the way the poorest workers are treated in the US, that is the stuff of nightmares.

Having to have two or three minimum-pay jobs just to be able to survive in the 'richest' country on earth is certainly a dystopia that I hope my country doesn't follow.

I don't think all unions are good, or make good decisions in the same way I don't think all business managers are good or make the right decisions. They are just humans making decisions and taking actions, some are good, some are selfish and bad, most probably in the middle. But unions on the whole do ensure the lowest paid and the most vulnerable have some power and leverage in a society that based on a lot of history has not cared how they fared.

Re: Activists find camera inside box on power pole near union organizer’s home

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They just need better PR for Big Brother. One of China's state-owned surveillance companies is way ahead at this. "Hikvision - welcoming you to a safer world". Ad for face recognition: https://youtu.be/3-wFa8eWZ7E Tired of looking at surveillance video? This tool speeds up the job: https://youtu.be/KrzTAlV70bQ Overproduced ad for the whole product line. Very funny: https://youtu.be/otAuH6FDhgw

The ads are terrifying, mainly because it shows the company has enough money to waste this much on ad production. It also makes me wonder how much the problem in China is top-down vs "middle-out". It seems that the CCP wages a brilliant kind of information warfare:

The ads build up an image around the creation of this technology as an equalizer and solution to middle and lower-class problems. The ad for face recognition, for example, is factored around making the lives of factory and service workers easier. By doing this, they gain buy-in from all social classes. The little guy lives a better life, the middle class lives in a secure and fair society, and the governing class can ensure everything runs smoothly.

I've always thought of China's government as a rather Orwellian top-down state of control. I've realized lately that their propaganda is sophisticated enough to make their populous believe it without coercion. What westerners might see as Orwellian is to them an innovation which helps the working class.

Re: Activists find camera inside box on power pole near union organizer’s home

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They just need better PR for Big Brother. One of China's state-owned surveillance companies is way ahead at this. "Hikvision - welcoming you to a safer world". Ad for face recognition: https://youtu.be/3-wFa8eWZ7E Tired of looking at surveillance video? This tool speeds up the job: https://youtu.be/KrzTAlV70bQ Overproduced ad for the whole product line. Very funny: https://youtu.be/otAuH6FDhgw

The ads are terrifying, mainly because it shows the company has enough money to waste this much on ad production. It also makes me wonder how much the problem in China is top-down vs "middle-out". It seems that the CCP wages a brilliant kind of information warfare: The ads build up an image around the creation of this technology as an equalizer and solution to middle and lower-class problems. The ad for face recognit…

Producing ads like these is never a waste if they can change the public's perception. Creepy.

Re: Activists find camera inside box on power pole near union organizer’s home

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The device itself is an SSG Pole Camera, which is a common platform used by police forces across the country. Fun fact, it comes with a little generic RF keyfob that remotely power cycles it. https://paste.pics/c401ecf58e05477b51bdf0b849756860

So you're saying I can build a thing that reboot-loops all hidden cameras within a radius around me?

Sounds like you're throwing a challenge to the Hackaday types out there.

And amusingly enough, using cheap hardware to mess with RF devices around you reminds of Steve Lord's hilarious/informative/vicious "Cider Kill-chain" talk.[0] Since attacks only improve over time, the code golf to make the devices more effective could prove quite entertaining to watch - from a safe distance.

0: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIRlFSIngfE

Re: Activists find camera inside box on power pole near union organizer’s home

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At least as far back as 2009 Pinkertons still existed. They were in the business of being contracted by major US companies to perform background checks on staff who needed high security clearance.

The Pinkerton Agency still exists now . Unlike Blackwater/Xe/Academi/whatever, they haven't even dropped the name. One gets the sense that they don't mind the associations the name's gathered.

They're now a subsidiary of Securitas AB, a Swedish company.

Securitas is known for having their people wearing uniforms that are designed to be confused with local law enforcement and for heavy lobbying for privatisation of the prison industry in the Nordics.

A great fit for Pinkerton.

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