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Activists find camera inside box on power pole near union organizer’s home

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Re: Activists find camera inside box on power pole near union organizer’s home

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Cell Modem is Sierra Wireless Airlink GX440 https://source.sierrawireless.com/devices/gx-series/gx440/#s...

The device itself is an SSG Pole Camera, which is a common platform used by police forces across the country. Fun fact, it comes with a little generic RF keyfob that remotely power cycles it. https://paste.pics/c401ecf58e05477b51bdf0b849756860

So you're saying I can build a thing that reboot-loops all hidden cameras within a radius around me?

Re: Activists find camera inside box on power pole near union organizer’s home

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Thanks. I'm well aware of how Skycop cameras appear, as well as their website address. The MPD has over 2,000 of them deployed. Did you consider, if this camera box existed and was covert, how it was located immediately after it was placed? Who was it that climbed the pole to open a box that said, "High Voltage," and take pictures of the inside? If the actual box looked nothing like a Skycop deployment, why was the f…

You seem to imply that the activist/article is lying. Apart from the video and that there being no good reason for him to lie (too easily exposed) This is not the first time that these high voltage boxes show up in the news about surveillance. So if you're someone aware of theses issues you would certainly not fear opening up a high voltage box (also what would be in the box if it actually was something high voltage,…

> You seem to imply that the activist/article is lying.

That's completely false. I said there is likely more to the story than was reported - and there is more to the story. I did not say that the activist or article is lying. That is solely your inference.

The article, however, is incomplete and inaccurate. This particular activist has a long history with MPD. Two years ago, he was involed with a lawsuit against MPD. This house belongs to his grandmother, so he wasn't specifically being surveiled. The police have arrested his cousin and non-related drug-dealers while at his grandmother's house - in possession of drugs. They also served papers at that address for another one of his cousins for aggravated assault.

As I wrote, there is more to this story than is written in this article. At best, this article was superficial.

> Apart from the video and that there being no good reason for him to lie

Yes, there are resaons for him to lie, but I didn't sat that he lied - I don't know whether he lied or not. But, why did he jump to the conclusion that MPD was surveiling him, personally, at an address that isn't his?

This is the website that he has had for years for his activism. It's been completely empty for years. http://15.org

> Your assertion that this is likely a skycop seems to however not based on any evidence.

I said based upon the thousands of already deployed skycops, the camera used by MPD, that if this was by MPD my understanding was that this was a Skycop camera.

Re: Activists find camera inside box on power pole near union organizer’s home

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Not ironic at all. Police are the agents of capital and their union is thus in service of capital, not labor. They are conspicuously the only union which isn't protested very much by the powers that be. The union protects police from retribution by the people against whom they mete out punishment, who are essentially never capitalists. To put it another way, there is zero solidarity between police unions and unions o…

Police are agents of the state and the state serves nothing but itself.

The state serves entities in power, not itself.

To give an example: In Switzerland being a direct democracy many people would say that the state serves the people who vote, but I know someone who says that Switzerland is in reality a plutocracy, so in this case the state would serve the one percent.

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Irony if this was done for political reasons that it was by law enforcement who have a strong union.

Not ironic at all. Police are the agents of capital and their union is thus in service of capital, not labor. They are conspicuously the only union which isn't protested very much by the powers that be. The union protects police from retribution by the people against whom they mete out punishment, who are essentially never capitalists. To put it another way, there is zero solidarity between police unions and unions o…

Police are not agents of capital. They are agents of the government and nothing more. Police make a modest government salary and do not (at least in the US) have a history of reacting well to bribes.

Police meet out punishment all of the time to capitalists (a.k.a people with retirement accounts and savings accounts). I’m not sure why you think otherwise.

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They're also using Wago 222[0] style lever nuts, which are not common in the US. In my experience, US electricians use twist-style wire caps instead to create junctions. [0] https://www.wago.com/us/wire-splicing-connectors/splicing-co...

I live in the US and use Wago lever nuts. Agree that they aren't common but they are easily purchased on Amazon and other sites. And electrical supply houses can usually get them too.

I wish they were more common here. I haven't had much problem getting the lever nuts, but the junction boxes [0] seem really hard to find. The few Amazon sellers I've ordered from all ship them from Europe.

[0] https://www.screwfix.com/p/wagobox-junction-box/7355f

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Not ironic. Police unions are fundamentally different than other labor unions. This might spell it out for you: https://www.teenvogue.com/story/what-to-know-police-unions-l...

I love that this is in Teen Vogue. It used to be that you'd only see this in Socialist Worker Daily or something.

Teenage targeted publications are actually pretty common ground for extremist viewpoints. It’s an audience pretty receptive to new ideas. Not having “adult responsibilities” nor having to really be a functioning member of society in general makes Marxism, Ayn Rand Capitalism, etc all pretty palatable and reasonable ideas (albeit normally to different cliques).

Re: Activists find camera inside box on power pole near union organizer’s home

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A better link to the UK story: https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-43507728 but note in the UK this was a major scandal, £250m of compensation paid, etc, rather than business as normal

I mean… the fact that it’s in the news and notable enough that it was voted to the front page of HN suggests that it isn’t exactly “business as usual” in the US, either. Your link suggests it took six years for the Metropolitan Police to admit wrongdoing. This camera was found last week. Let’s give it time to actually blow up to “scandal” proportions.

I don’t know man, I hope this blows up to scandal levels in this case, but I have been hearing about these power pole cameras for a long time.

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Can someone from the US please explain why would police surveil a union organizer? How is s/he a threat to the public?

The Memphis Police Department has been under a federal consent decree for over 40 years. Spying on labor and civil rights groups is just part of their act. https://www.aclu-tn.org/blacklisted-memphis-police-surveilla...

To be clear, the 1978 federal consent decree is essentially the federal government telling Memphis PD to quit their spying bullshit “or else”, and yet they’ve continued this surveillance anyway, over the years?

Re: Activists find camera inside box on power pole near union organizer’s home

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To be fair, I'm disappointed at the lack of sophistication of this surveillance device.

Everything is off the shelf and is very conginizent of burn notice.

https://burnnotice.fandom.com/wiki/Episode_216:_Lesser_Evil

Litereally, to the "T" with the high voltage sticker.

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