Irony if this was done for political reasons that it was by law enforcement who have a strong union.
Different union.
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#12Irony if this was done for political reasons that it was by law enforcement who have a strong union.
Not ironic. Police unions are fundamentally different than other labor unions. This might spell it out for you:
https://www.teenvogue.com/story/what-to-know-police-unions-l...
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#13The camera in question is a Canon PTZ camera with 20x optical zoom, model VB-H41: https://www.usa.canon.com/internet/portal/us/home/support/de...
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#14Irony if this was done for political reasons that it was by law enforcement who have a strong union.
Not ironic at all. Police are the agents of capital and their union is thus in service of capital, not labor. They are conspicuously the only union which isn't protested very much by the powers that be. The union protects police from retribution by the people against whom they mete out punishment, who are essentially never capitalists.
To put it another way, there is zero solidarity between police unions and unions of other types. IWW does not allow police (or prison guards) into its organization.
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#15Can someone from the US please explain why would police surveil a union organizer? How is s/he a threat to the public?
Do you want the conspiracy or official version?
It is probable it has nothing to do with politics and the individuals (or people in the area) in question are suspects in a standard criminal activity.
It is also possible it is political.
The lack of transparency in government / police operations leads to this kind of speculation. The massive lose of trust in police (rightfully so) over the past few years also has eroded any "benefit of the doubt" people may have given them in the past
Unless an arrest is made or a lawsuit files we will probably never know the real truth.
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#16The accusation that the police are surveilling union organizers is extremely troubling, and harkens back to the early 20th century when cops killed union organizers. The police should stay out of such political matters; especially if they expect their continued funding to be above political reproach.
Given how prevalent police unions are, and how incredibly quick they are to raise complaints, you'd hope for more self-awareness/solidarity and less hypocrisy.
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#17The accusation that the police are surveilling union organizers is extremely troubling, and harkens back to the early 20th century when cops killed union organizers. The police should stay out of such political matters; especially if they expect their continued funding to be above political reproach.
That goes the other way too, if not more so:
The union should stay out of such political matters; especially if they expect their continued funding to be above political reproach.
That funding is a private tax, backed by force of law, imposed on the income of the workers. Via political "donation" a large part of it goes to politicians, ensuring that the politicians continue to allow it. This is deeply corrupt. We have here a money pipeline from the worker's paycheck to the politician, with the union and politician splitting the ill-gotten cut of the paycheck.
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#18Irony if this was done for political reasons that it was by law enforcement who have a strong union.
Not ironic. Police unions are fundamentally different than other labor unions. This might spell it out for you: https://www.teenvogue.com/story/what-to-know-police-unions-l...
Thank you for sharing this. I learned a lot about police unions' tactics from this article.
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#19The accusation that the police are surveilling union organizers is extremely troubling, and harkens back to the early 20th century when cops killed union organizers. The police should stay out of such political matters; especially if they expect their continued funding to be above political reproach.
That goes the other way too, if not more so: The union should stay out of such political matters; especially if they expect their continued funding to be above political reproach. That funding is a private tax, backed by force of law, imposed on the income of the workers. Via political "donation" a large part of it goes to politicians, ensuring that the politicians continue to allow it. This is deeply corrupt. We hav…
Err, no. A union is inherently a political entity.
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#20The accusation that the police are surveilling union organizers is extremely troubling, and harkens back to the early 20th century when cops killed union organizers. The police should stay out of such political matters; especially if they expect their continued funding to be above political reproach.
Given how prevalent police unions are, and how incredibly quick they are to raise complaints, you'd hope for more self-awareness/solidarity and less hypocrisy.
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