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India announces plan to connect 600k villages with optical fiber in 1000 days

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Re: India announces plan to connect 600k villages with optical fiber in 1000 days

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Was going to say something along this line. Is disheartening to live in a first world country (center of Berlin) that happens to have the strongest economy in the Euro zone, and have such a slow internet that I can't even watch Netflix after 8 Pm (and having to pay 50 euro/month)

laughs in gigabit fiber for 10 euro/month in Eastern Europe The reason why you're in this situation is that under Helmut Kohl, despite advice from experts to use fiber, the German government wired the whole country with copper instead because the ministry of infrastructure at the time had stocks in the copper business.[1] And also, in present times, German politicians still don't see the value the internet brings to…

It's not like more fiber will change Germany's sucsess in building software companies. I'm sure the issue is much more complex than that.

Re: India announces plan to connect 600k villages with optical fiber in 1000 days

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what's wrong with N26? It seemed to be doing fine last time I checked.

currently doing their best trying to avoid their workers unionizing

that's interesting, but I'm not sure it goes as an explanation of "bombing hard".

Re: India announces plan to connect 600k villages with optical fiber in 1000 days

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> ..under Helmut Kohl, despite advice from experts to use fiber, the German government wired the whole country with copper instead because the ministry of infrastructure at the time had stocks in the copper business. Such abuse of public position ought to be a criminal offence - they profited at the cost of setting the country back a decade (or more!) in terms of modern infrastructure. Ubiquitous, fast, and maybe eve…

Just to name and shame, Christian Schwarz-Schilling was the minister of infrastructure at the time. Despite his actions and reputation, he never had to go to court and seems to be currently enjoying retirement.

It wouldn't be the first time Germany got shafted by a politician from Austria ;)

Re: India announces plan to connect 600k villages with optical fiber in 1000 days

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> As an Indian, I've heard countless plans like these every few years I agree the previous Governments never did act on their plans. I find a lot of difference between them and the current Government when it comes to desire, commitment and execution. Take Highways for instance. Rapid construction across the country. In 2014, when Modi came to power, it was 4260 km per year. In 2018, 10800 kms of highways were built.…

I have backpacked through one of the regions where some of the construction you are talking about is going on. In one of the Himalayan states, one of their ambitious highway projects has caused destruction with little benefit to the local populace and far negative consequences to the terrain and environment. Pursuing development is good but it shouldn't come at the cost of destroying your ecology and environment, spe…

If you happen to be standing near a highway sure it’s ugly, but they have minimal impact on low population density areas.

Re: India announces plan to connect 600k villages with optical fiber in 1000 days

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laughs in gigabit fiber for 10 euro/month in Eastern Europe The reason why you're in this situation is that under Helmut Kohl, despite advice from experts to use fiber, the German government wired the whole country with copper instead because the ministry of infrastructure at the time had stocks in the copper business.[1] And also, in present times, German politicians still don't see the value the internet brings to…

If it’ll make you feel better, Maggie Thatcher killed-off the UK’s then-nationalised BT’s plans for nationwide FTTP in the late-1980s because it was anti-competitive to the nascent cablecos who were busy carving up our pavement (sidewalks) laying coax: https://www.techradar.com/news/world-of-tech/how-the-uk-lost...

At least the present UK is doing much better than Germany in terms of government digitalization, successful software companies and fiber internet.

Re: India announces plan to connect 600k villages with optical fiber in 1000 days

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As an Indian, I've heard countless plans like these every few years. I'll get excited when it actually happens.

> As an Indian, I've heard countless plans like these every few years I agree the previous Governments never did act on their plans. I find a lot of difference between them and the current Government when it comes to desire, commitment and execution. Take Highways for instance. Rapid construction across the country. In 2014, when Modi came to power, it was 4260 km per year. In 2018, 10800 kms of highways were built.…

In 2018, the definition of length was changed to count each lane separately.[1]

In 2019, the govt stopped building highways at the first sign of economic distress.[2]

1: https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/now-new-concept-to...

2: https://www.livemint.com/industry/infrastructure/pmo-s-sugge...

Re: India announces plan to connect 600k villages with optical fiber in 1000 days

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post #51

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laughs in gigabit fiber for 10 euro/month in Eastern Europe The reason why you're in this situation is that under Helmut Kohl, despite advice from experts to use fiber, the German government wired the whole country with copper instead because the ministry of infrastructure at the time had stocks in the copper business.[1] And also, in present times, German politicians still don't see the value the internet brings to…

It's not like more fiber will change Germany's sucsess in building software companies. I'm sure the issue is much more complex than that.

Not much, pay the talents the right amount of money, make it easy for Startups, invest in European technologies and also produce them here, slim down the bureaucracy and the taxes for startups/spinoffs.

Re: India announces plan to connect 600k villages with optical fiber in 1000 days

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post #56

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> As an Indian, I've heard countless plans like these every few years I agree the previous Governments never did act on their plans. I find a lot of difference between them and the current Government when it comes to desire, commitment and execution. Take Highways for instance. Rapid construction across the country. In 2014, when Modi came to power, it was 4260 km per year. In 2018, 10800 kms of highways were built.…

In 2018, the definition of length was changed to count each lane separately.[1] In 2019, the govt stopped building highways at the first sign of economic distress.[2] 1: https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/now-new-concept-to... 2: https://www.livemint.com/industry/infrastructure/pmo-s-sugge...

While that juices the numbers conveniently, aren't the vast majority of India's roads still two-lane? And as the article notes, building 4 lanes costs more than twice the price building two lanes.

Re: India announces plan to connect 600k villages with optical fiber in 1000 days

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While at it, they should also put up a pole every village (like electric pole) with high range WiFi router. This will remove the last 100m connectivity hurdle and everyone with a WiFi device can get a taste of high speed internet.

Disclaimer : I live in a village in Rajasthan. People will still the WiFi device and sell it for pennies. They don't spare road light in many parts of cities.

Oh, I know the feeling. In my hometown in Brazil they've installed these very tall LED poles with spikes because of thieves. People here will even steal your old thongs or plant vase if you leave them outside. It's insane.

Re: India announces plan to connect 600k villages with optical fiber in 1000 days

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post #39

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Detroit had the same problem with copper wiring in street lights until a few years ago, when they went LED and were able to reduce the size of the conductors and switch to aluminum, reducing the value of stripping them for scrap.

Didn't we already learn (post-WWII US) that aluminum wiring is an unreliable idea?

Better unreliable wiring than stolen wiring?
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