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India announces plan to connect 600k villages with optical fiber in 1000 days

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Re: India announces plan to connect 600k villages with optical fiber in 1000 days

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Post by jiggawatts »

rayanimesh wrote: post #8
setum wrote: post #7

While at it, they should also put up a pole every village (like electric pole) with high range WiFi router. This will remove the last 100m connectivity hurdle and everyone with a WiFi device can get a taste of high speed internet.

Disclaimer : I live in a village in Rajasthan. People will still the WiFi device and sell it for pennies. They don't spare road light in many parts of cities.

I'm from a former soviet republic, so I know what leads to this kind of thing, but it's still horrifying to have stated so matter-of-factly.

Re: India announces plan to connect 600k villages with optical fiber in 1000 days

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Post by schemy »

spellunkskunk wrote: post #19

Catering to domestic demand rather than to china's demands https://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory/china-extends-an...

India is going to overtake China in population by 2022, and the Indian population pyramid is lagging China's by 30-40 years.

This is going to be a very interesting time when China overtakes the US in the nominal size of GDP, only to have India start doing what China did to the US before it even happens.

We might be looking at the 30 Chinese years instead of the Chinese century.

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Post by blueblisters »

spellunkskunk wrote: post #19

Catering to domestic demand rather than to china's demands https://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory/china-extends-an...

I am actually surprised that India has a big and competitive enough optical fiber industry that exports to China for China to raise punitive anti-dumping tariffs.

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Post by NullPrefix »

murukesh_s wrote: post #14
rayanimesh wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Disclaimer : I live in a village in Rajasthan. People will still the WiFi device and sell it for pennies. They don't spare road light in many parts of cities.

if the WiFi devices are ubiquitous, then there would be less incentive to steal.

Copper is quite ubiquitous too, yet some still steal live cables

Re: India announces plan to connect 600k villages with optical fiber in 1000 days

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Post by NullPrefix »

kcsomisetty wrote: post #11
marchammknd wrote: post #10

Ok, but wouldn’t just providing clean drinking water for example be more critical for most of those families?

I would say both are priorities, govt efforts can't be in sequential priority. what about villages that already have access to water, should they wait for other things until all villages catchup ? imagine access to youtube & vast knowledge, may be it will spur the commom folk to take matter into their own hands and improve their lives.

>what about villages that already have access to water, should they wait for other things until all villages catchup ?

It would be more appropriate to broaden the scale and raise this question in relation to the whole world, not just the other villages.

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Post by koevet »

nix23 wrote: post #18

Please India, if you're done with that, can you come to Germany?

Was going to say something along this line. Is disheartening to live in a first world country (center of Berlin) that happens to have the strongest economy in the Euro zone, and have such a slow internet that I can't even watch Netflix after 8 Pm (and having to pay 50 euro/month)

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Post by ChuckNorris89 »

koevet wrote: post #26
nix23 wrote: post #18

Please India, if you're done with that, can you come to Germany?

Was going to say something along this line. Is disheartening to live in a first world country (center of Berlin) that happens to have the strongest economy in the Euro zone, and have such a slow internet that I can't even watch Netflix after 8 Pm (and having to pay 50 euro/month)

laughs in gigabit fiber for 10 euro/month in Eastern Europe

The reason why you're in this situation is that under Helmut Kohl, despite advice from experts to use fiber, the German government wired the whole country with copper instead because the ministry of infrastructure at the time had stocks in the copper business.[1]

And also, in present times, German politicians still don't see the value the internet brings to a country so it was never a priority. Some even have employees print them pages off the internet so they can read them in paper form.

For them, the backbone of German economy is IG Metall factories so they never understand how could one ever make money with the internet.

As proof of this all one has to do is look at the DAX and see that none of the companies there bar SAP are software companies.

I see this as a mentality problem in German leadership, as it's only two big fintech companies, Wirecard and N26, are bombing hard while competitors from Sweden and the UK like Klarna and Monzo are flourishing. And I'm sure the engineers in Germany are just as good as the ones in Sweden and the UK.

[1]https://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/web/deutschland-warum-unsere...

Re: India announces plan to connect 600k villages with optical fiber in 1000 days

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Post by onetimemanytime »

Have seen about 10 miles done in a day. How? By piggybacking on already lined 10Kv lines. About 1 meter under the lines put a galvanized steel bracket on each concrete pole and go. 3 people in one day laid 10 miles. If they had to put their own poles would have delayed but by a little. So it's doable and in countries like India, labor is virtually free and rules /permits are nonexistent so costs are low.

Edit: India will become a superpower. It will not happen in a day or 1000 but with our (US) help they will, and will keep China in check.

Re: India announces plan to connect 600k villages with optical fiber in 1000 days

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Post by the_pwner224 »

setum wrote: post #7

While at it, they should also put up a pole every village (like electric pole) with high range WiFi router. This will remove the last 100m connectivity hurdle and everyone with a WiFi device can get a taste of high speed internet.

> high range WiFi router

The limiting factor is the client. Maximum transmission power is limited by law to avoid interference; routers generally hit the maximum - mine is doing 1 watt on the 5 GHz band and 200 mW on 2.4 GHz. But phones and laptops generally transmit at no more than a few dozen mW.

Transmission and reception have asymmetrical link speeds but your range is going be bounded by the point at which the client can't reliably talk back to the router to keep the connection alive.

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