I believe they can do it. The did something simular with toilets
India announces plan to connect 600k villages with optical fiber in 1000 days
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Re: India announces plan to connect 600k villages with optical fiber in 1000 days
#42Earlier quoted context omitted.
> As an Indian, I've heard countless plans like these every few years I agree the previous Governments never did act on their plans. I find a lot of difference between them and the current Government when it comes to desire, commitment and execution. Take Highways for instance. Rapid construction across the country. In 2014, when Modi came to power, it was 4260 km per year. In 2018, 10800 kms of highways were built.…
> Yes it fails in some (demonetization) and wins in most but at least there is no policy paralysis like in the UPA era. This is OP's personal perception and opinion of the current and the former government.
Aren't all of us here just writing our opinions unless backed by research articles?
Re: India announces plan to connect 600k villages with optical fiber in 1000 days
#43Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm from a former soviet republic, so I know what leads to this kind of thing, but it's still horrifying to have stated so matter-of-factly.
Detroit had the same problem with copper wiring in street lights until a few years ago, when they went LED and were able to reduce the size of the conductors and switch to aluminum, reducing the value of stripping them for scrap.
Didn't we already learn (post-WWII US) that aluminum wiring is an unreliable idea?
Re: India announces plan to connect 600k villages with optical fiber in 1000 days
#44Earlier quoted context omitted.
Was going to say something along this line. Is disheartening to live in a first world country (center of Berlin) that happens to have the strongest economy in the Euro zone, and have such a slow internet that I can't even watch Netflix after 8 Pm (and having to pay 50 euro/month)
laughs in gigabit fiber for 10 euro/month in Eastern Europe The reason why you're in this situation is that under Helmut Kohl, despite advice from experts to use fiber, the German government wired the whole country with copper instead because the ministry of infrastructure at the time had stocks in the copper business.[1] And also, in present times, German politicians still don't see the value the internet brings to…
If it’ll make you feel better, Maggie Thatcher killed-off the UK’s then-nationalised BT’s plans for nationwide FTTP in the late-1980s because it was anti-competitive to the nascent cablecos who were busy carving up our pavement (sidewalks) laying coax: https://www.techradar.com/news/world-of-tech/how-the-uk-lost...
Re: India announces plan to connect 600k villages with optical fiber in 1000 days
#45Earlier quoted context omitted.
laughs in gigabit fiber for 10 euro/month in Eastern Europe The reason why you're in this situation is that under Helmut Kohl, despite advice from experts to use fiber, the German government wired the whole country with copper instead because the ministry of infrastructure at the time had stocks in the copper business.[1] And also, in present times, German politicians still don't see the value the internet brings to…
what's wrong with N26? It seemed to be doing fine last time I checked.
currently doing their best trying to avoid their workers unionizing
Re: India announces plan to connect 600k villages with optical fiber in 1000 days
#46Earlier quoted context omitted.
laughs in gigabit fiber for 10 euro/month in Eastern Europe The reason why you're in this situation is that under Helmut Kohl, despite advice from experts to use fiber, the German government wired the whole country with copper instead because the ministry of infrastructure at the time had stocks in the copper business.[1] And also, in present times, German politicians still don't see the value the internet brings to…
> ..under Helmut Kohl, despite advice from experts to use fiber, the German government wired the whole country with copper instead because the ministry of infrastructure at the time had stocks in the copper business. Such abuse of public position ought to be a criminal offence - they profited at the cost of setting the country back a decade (or more!) in terms of modern infrastructure. Ubiquitous, fast, and maybe eve…
Just to name and shame, Christian Schwarz-Schilling was the minister of infrastructure at the time. Despite his actions and reputation, he never had to go to court and seems to be currently enjoying retirement.
Re: India announces plan to connect 600k villages with optical fiber in 1000 days
#47As an Indian, I've heard countless plans like these every few years. I'll get excited when it actually happens.
True. In 2016 Smart City mission was heavily promoted and 100 cities won the rights. Not a single one has been developed in 5 years.
My parents live in a planned newly built (< 10 years) area of a major city and they don't have either fibre or telephone cable. Internet is by very poor 4G. Recently a private fibre has started.
Re: India announces plan to connect 600k villages with optical fiber in 1000 days
#48I think fiber would be the best option for speed.
No doubt, though I'm also curious about architecture.
Most of these types of deployments tend to go with a GPON variant, with passive optical splitters:
* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passive_optical_network
However sometimes 'Active' (transitional?) Ethernet is used, which may cost more from a fibre perspective, but the gear at the end can then be traditional Ethernet which allows for taking advantage of economies of scale from the enterprise world:
* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utah_Telecommunication_Open_In...
Have any details been released on what they're going to use? Anyone have experience with running PON that could comment on the pros/cons?
Re: India announces plan to connect 600k villages with optical fiber in 1000 days
#49Have seen about 10 miles done in a day. How? By piggybacking on already lined 10Kv lines. About 1 meter under the lines put a galvanized steel bracket on each concrete pole and go. 3 people in one day laid 10 miles. If they had to put their own poles would have delayed but by a little. So it's doable and in countries like India, labor is virtually free and rules /permits are nonexistent so costs are low. Edit: India…
Step 1 is to stop emigrating from India to the US the moment you get a chance. I'm guilty of it as are many of my friends but it doesn't help develop a country when their brightest minds don't have enough faith to stay.
Re: India announces plan to connect 600k villages with optical fiber in 1000 days
#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
Was going to say something along this line. Is disheartening to live in a first world country (center of Berlin) that happens to have the strongest economy in the Euro zone, and have such a slow internet that I can't even watch Netflix after 8 Pm (and having to pay 50 euro/month)
laughs in gigabit fiber for 10 euro/month in Eastern Europe The reason why you're in this situation is that under Helmut Kohl, despite advice from experts to use fiber, the German government wired the whole country with copper instead because the ministry of infrastructure at the time had stocks in the copper business.[1] And also, in present times, German politicians still don't see the value the internet brings to…
It's not just copper vs fiber though: by the time of reunification West Germany was already mostly done with the transition from cheap overhead wiring to the luxury of invisible (and storm-proof) underground cables. A return to putting up poles would have felt like the cliche of a failing businessman telling his trophy wife that they can't afford the country club membership anymore. Its much harder to give up an expensive habit than to never start.
I'm sure that there are "underground wiring" countries with widespread fiber deployment and that Germany is doing worse than those, but comparisons to places where overhead is still accepted are skewed.