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Do the ends justify the means? The way I see it Apple will be rightfully scrutinised but only because a giant corporation used propoganda on its users. The lowest common denominator: "they're stopping you playing the game!!!"

They’re only preventing new installs. Most Fortnite fans with iPhones will already have the game installed. It still works fine. I just tried it myself

Until there's an update.

Re: Epic Games releases "Nineteen Eighty-Fortnite" ad

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Burn it all down. Create a new society formed from mutual aid and non-heirchial power structures. Capitalism is the disease.

There was a great deal of "burn it all down" sentiment around Trump's election. From my perspective, it wasn't and isn't productive. I'd rather see energy behind a sentiment like "real reform now" instead.

This is the first week in two months that there have been fewer than a million new unemployment applications. There are a million jobs and 40,000,000 unemployed. Evictions are starting, and noon to night in courthouses across the country it's people losing their housing, probably forever. But Bezos is doing all right, he's up a few billion so he'll let it ride. And Congress must agree, because they're taking a break until Labor Day.

Reform what? What's left to reform?

Re: Epic Games releases "Nineteen Eighty-Fortnite" ad

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This is going to be a fascinating PR war. Apple was probably caught by surprise with how immediately public Epic was willing to take this. But besides the fun of that wonderful drama unfolding over the next months/years, I actually feel like this could be catastrophic for Apple's image. Epic has an underestimated amount of influence and clout over the Gen Z crowd, and by aggressively rallying teenage gamers against A…

On the other hand I suspect Boomers and Gen X are the ones actually purchasing the devices Gen Z own, not least of all for the many “family” features/restrictions. Enough parents have either had or heard of crazy games-related credit card charges they could view this positively.

Re: Epic Games releases "Nineteen Eighty-Fortnite" ad

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post #20

Apple is providing the platform that enables Epic to distribute their game for FREE to a billion+ users. Why shouldn't they take a cut from the in-app purchase monetization? It costs Apple server hosting, bandwidth, engineering to provide this service. Providing an alternative payment method at a discount is not the answer here, obviously players will choose the cheaper option. If Epic wants more money, maybe they sh…

> Apple is providing the platform that enables Epic to distribute their game for FREE to a billion+ users. Why shouldn't they take a cut from the in-app purchase monetization? Then they should charge the developer for install costs + profit, not charge for all transactions happening in the game that have nothing to do with Apple and impose no cost on them . That's retarded. It's like a landlord taking 30% of sales fr…

This literally exists and is commonplace in commercial real estate. https://www.investopedia.com/terms/p/percentage-lease.asp

Re: Epic Games releases "Nineteen Eighty-Fortnite" ad

#127

This is going to be a fascinating PR war. Apple was probably caught by surprise with how immediately public Epic was willing to take this. But besides the fun of that wonderful drama unfolding over the next months/years, I actually feel like this could be catastrophic for Apple's image. Epic has an underestimated amount of influence and clout over the Gen Z crowd, and by aggressively rallying teenage gamers against A…

I don't think Epic has that much influence. If I were Apple's PR team, I think I'd just completely ignore them. Treat them as utterly and completely irrelevant. Personally I think Apple's 30% cut is ridiculous and the fact that there is zero market pressure on that them to price it appropriately should mean something. But at the same time I'm not sure Epic has any legal leg to stand on.

And that is exactly why you are not Apple's PR team. I understand your POW and I would have shared it also if not for the kids in the house where you can actually see how dominating Epic is. There is a whole sub-culture around Fortnite, it expands from just playing a simple game on your iPad to being a way of communication on TikTok (e.g. dance moves). And you bet that when those little kids start whining to their parents, some noise will be generated.

I have honestly nothing more to say, except well played Fortnite! Perfect execution.

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#128

Move over Netflix, this Apple vs Epic is the shit worth watching. Your move Apple.

Not really. It's basic contract law versus some small game company lawyers (compared to Apple's). Also, putting out parody ads and making fun of the whole thing will get you zero points in any court. Even if a court accepts this at all it will take years to finish. Meanwhile Epic is out of luck.

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Re: Epic Games releases "Nineteen Eighty-Fortnite" ad

#129
post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They’re only preventing new installs. Most Fortnite fans with iPhones will already have the game installed. It still works fine. I just tried it myself

Until there's an update.

It downloaded a 1.4 gig update when I opened it

Re: Epic Games releases "Nineteen Eighty-Fortnite" ad

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post #63
post #15

I don’t care about Fortnite, but I would love to have the option to install alternative apps stores on iOS. This has to be the most dramatic example of “running to the press” to date, which I’m sure Apple loathes. If nothing else it’s entertaining.

It is fascinating to me for the all wrong reasons. Is there a German word for this; enjoying watching opposing forces but you don't like either?

"Schadenfreude" comes to my mind, and the proverb "wenn sich zwei streiten, freut sich der dritte" (when two are fighting, the third is the lucky one). But Schadenfreude is more general than what you are describing and the proverb is not quite on spot, because you are not really involved in the story. I'll probably spend the next hour trying to think of a better word ;).
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