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Re: Mozilla Lifeboat

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Post by Arathorn »

rvz wrote: post #205
doublerabbit wrote: post #171

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I've been trying to get people to join "element" but it just makes the whole chat sound awkward "Hey, want to join me on element? compared to "hey, want to join me on riot". Element just doesn't have the same ring and sounds less exciting and dull. It's not even listed in search engines, especially DDG, so I then have to give them the URL which adds to the awkwardness. It was a bad move in my opinion. Sure sure, the…

Every time 'Element' (The Matrix chat app) gets a mention, it resorts into questioning the name or a disambiguation. The technology, product and pricing with the deals they are making with multiple governments and businesses is an excellent source of revenue and is very competitive at striking those deals. However the genericness of the name will be a problem with non-technical users and will always be an issue with…

Folks, it's been like 3 weeks since we renamed Riot as Element, and (picking DDG) it's already the 18th hit from the top. Riot was 4th at the point we renamed it (second only to RG). Meanwhile it's already the top hit on the Play Store. So give it a few more weeks :) In terms of the name itself, I personally think "Let's talk on Element" is at least as catchy as "Let's talk on Riot", although it's touching to see folks missing the name Riot.

Re: Mozilla Lifeboat

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Post by maxerickson »

viro wrote: post #144
maxerickson wrote: post #123

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The corporation can spend money on whatever the hell. That's why they set it up. You can infer from the foundation tax returns that most of the assets are held by the corporation: https://assets.mozilla.net/annualreport/2018/mozilla-2018-fo... It's the assets held directly by the foundation that have implications for their tax status, and they only move assets to that status as necessary.

"The corporation can spend money on whatever the hell. That's why they set it up." oh that is not true at all ... fiduciary duty doesn't work like that.

There's no need to be so literal.

And conveniently, the people directing the Corp are the ones setting the agenda for the org (which that agenda is the thing the Corp has a fiduciary duty towards...).

Re: Mozilla Lifeboat

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Post by swyx »

gkoberger wrote: post #71
Rapzid wrote: post #65

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Curious what tool/tools you used for that if any.

I made the SVG in Sketch and then did CSS transforms (by hand). Normally, however, I'd use GSAP for SVG animations: https://greensock.com/gsap/

by hand? did you use some sort of post processor? because the output css shows some weird repeats:

``` @keyframes sea-Top-Deck-Inside {

  from {transform: translateX(0);}

  from {transform: translateX(0);}

  to {transform: translateX(-3px);}
}

@keyframes sea-Top-Deck-Shadow {

  from {transform: translateX(0);}

  from {transform: translateX(0);}

  to {transform: translateX(-3px);}
} ```

sorry if it seems like im doubting you, i am just really super impressed by this animation and wanted to understand how you put this together!

also: readme is really cool! love your podcast interviews!

Re: Mozilla Lifeboat

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Post by gkoberger »

swyx wrote: post #213
gkoberger wrote: post #71

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I made the SVG in Sketch and then did CSS transforms (by hand). Normally, however, I'd use GSAP for SVG animations: https://greensock.com/gsap/

by hand? did you use some sort of post processor? because the output css shows some weird repeats: ``` @keyframes sea-Top-Deck-Inside { from {transform: translateX(0);} from {transform: translateX(0);} to {transform: translateX(-3px);} } @keyframes sea-Top-Deck-Shadow { from {transform: translateX(0);} from {transform: translateX(0);} to {transform: translateX(-3px);} } ``` sorry if it seems like im doubting you, i a…

Oh hey Shawn!

Yup, I used Stylus mixins for this. I just mean I didn't use something like Framer or an animation library :)

Here's the code (I don't expect it to make any sense to anyone other than me!)

https://pastebin.com/A6zStqmt

(There's a bug in that code causing two `from`s! Seems it's moot since it works, but I fixed it on my end. Here's the updated code: https://pastebin.com/Y6JwkZi4)

Re: Mozilla Lifeboat

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Post by jacquesm »

stingraycharles wrote: post #207
desert_boi wrote: post #199

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I'm an American who worked in Germany. I interviewed in the the Netherlands, but was horrified by how low pay was in the industry.

I meant to show that more as a benchmark. The claim was that Mozilla hires employees in low-cost countries. I agree that the pay in The Netherlands is pretty bad for software devs compared to other countries with similar wealth (UK, Germany, US, etc), but I know that it’s much worse in e.g. Eastern European countries, which I also expect Mozilla to hire from.

Germany is not that much better than NL except for fintech and that pays well everywhere.

Re: Mozilla Lifeboat

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Post by ulmas »

brianzelip wrote: post #193
tmsh wrote: post #119

Dope website and inspiring personal website: https://gkoberger.com/ Now I gotta work on my personal website.

Hmmm > Try this on a computer! This site is way more interactive on a bigger screen… so check it out next time you're on your desktop!

In Chrome: Menu > check "Desktop Site"

Re: Mozilla Lifeboat

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Post by sciurus »

causality0 wrote: post #167
lacker wrote: post #83

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The Fix The Internet incubator doesn't look like very much money is involved. A $2500 stipend for participants, a top prize of $25,000, not that much money. Whereas layoffs of 250 people will save maybe $50 - $100 million a year. Of course, perhaps they will also cut future funding to this incubator, and it's just a different timing that they announce it.

They're paying their devs 200-400 grand a year? Jesus.

I find the crowdsourced data at levels.fyi to be a good reality check on what dev compensation is like at large tech companies.

Let's take three others that make well-known desktop browsers: https://www.levels.fyi/?compare=Apple,Google,Microsoft&track...

According to that data, senior developers at Apple (ICT4), Google (L5) and Microsoft (64) make on average $320k, $352k, and $225k. Their fully-loaded costs (benefits, payroll taxes, office space, etc) to the company will of course be even higher.

These are examples of peer companies Mozilla is competing against for employees. As I explained at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24138083 , Mozilla does not try to attract people solely via compensation. However, you can only offer so much less before you're no longer able to hire and retain the talent you need.

Re: Mozilla Lifeboat

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Post by tambourine_man »

scarface74 wrote: post #149
l1ghthouse wrote: post #63

"For Mozilla folks looking for a landing spot, Safari and WebKit teams have a number of openings. DM if interested in any of the below: - HTTP stack - Web dev tools - 3D/AR/VR - Mac app - iOS app - Web Extensions - Any web platform area (layout, web APIs, ...) " https://twitter.com/othermaciej/status/1293252487021916161

Looking at the Twitter responses, I don’t know why people assume that every single Mozilla employee would put “being part of the open web and contributing to open source” above people’s crazy obsession with having a job and being able to afford food and shelter.

Modern web browsers are among the most complex piece of software out there.

If you’re qualified to write that kind of code, basic needs are surely well taken care of and are the least of your concerns.

To put it simply, these people will not have a hard time finding high paying jobs. And since they are able to choose, “being part of the open web” makes a lot of sense.

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