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Uber CEO says its service will probably shut down temporarily in California

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Re: Uber CEO says its service will probably shut down temporarily in California

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I used to work at Uber. I'll focus on one particular point: allowing drivers to see where riders are going before they accept the trip. Uber, at least when I worked there, was heavily against this functionality as it allows drivers to discriminate against riders who are going to poor neighborhoods or from cities to suburbs where they may have difficulty in getting another rider. That feature is bad for the overall ec…

This sounds like it is bad for the customer experience of the rider, but is essential for the driver to be considered a contractor. It makes sense to me as a tradeoff: Uber can decide that the drivers are employees and dictate what routes and fares they must take, or they can decide that drivers are contractors who have the ability to review and decline those fares

My last point was that it's good for both riders and drivers. If riders come to expect an unreliable service, then they'll use a different method of transit, which leaves the drivers with less work overall.

Re: Uber CEO says its service will probably shut down temporarily in California

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Goal of the government isn't to make marketplaces efficient. Regulations focuses more on making them "fair", "safe" and "non-discriminator". Note - definition of those is very political and open to huge interpretations. Gig-working enjoyed unregulated market, which is great for efficiency. But law is catching up now. Note - I'm not arguing that laws passed by government are correct. But they're in line with what gove…

But was Uber unfair and unsafe? That's very hard to argue, especially when compared to the prior reality rather than a theoretical perfection.

Safe and maybe fairer for consumers yes, not so much for the employees. That's why they are getting ruled against with employment law.

I can think of quite a few other businesses who would love to toss out all employee protections and benefits. I'm sure it would slightly lower prices and improve efficiency here and there. Is that worth the cost though?...

Re: Uber CEO says its service will probably shut down temporarily in California

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I don't think you actually understand how fast food restaurants operate. You actually can take several months off from McDonalds if you want and come back. Many employees do, especially the ones that work at college-town McDs... Moreover, you can switch shifts at will, so long as you find another employee to exchange shifts with. Pretty much the difference between fast food and Uber is that fast food is a minimum 8 h…

And what happens if you decide you won't show up today to work at McDonalds? And tomorrow, and the next day? Without telling anyone? Yeah... that's right.

You might get fired. But since restaurants (especially fast food) deal with this all the time, they just move on and will frequently let people start working again once they've resolved their issues.

And what happens if you don't log in to Uber or Lyft every day? You'll fall off their internal automated lists for ride selection priority and get stuck with all the undesirable rides nobody else wanted to drive.

Re: Uber CEO says its service will probably shut down temporarily in California

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Your comment history is super questionable. Every time I see you commenting on HN, I wonder if you're one of the Russian boogiemen people talk about, or if you're an example of what happens when someone believes too much of what they read on the internet.

The Internet isn't your personal safe space and it never will be. Recent EO's to this effect should make you take pause. If you don't want to read things outside your bubble, feel free to go back to Reddit.

Citation Needed...

Re: Uber CEO says its service will probably shut down temporarily in California

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I used to work at Uber. I'll focus on one particular point: allowing drivers to see where riders are going before they accept the trip. Uber, at least when I worked there, was heavily against this functionality as it allows drivers to discriminate against riders who are going to poor neighborhoods or from cities to suburbs where they may have difficulty in getting another rider. That feature is bad for the overall ec…

> as it allows drivers to discriminate against riders who are going to poor neighborhoods or from cities to suburbs where they may have difficulty in getting another rider. This is exactly what being a contractor is though. Accepting contract work you'd like, and turning down work you don't. Otherwise you are an employee.

A ride is more like a task. I've been a contractor and I couldn't refuse jira tasks. You've signed a contract with the company, you should do all the jira tasks they throw at you.

Re: Uber CEO says its service will probably shut down temporarily in California

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I work at Uber outside of the rides/eats business and observed many feature releases to adjust the business after AB5. What I saw released: - Enabling drivers to see where a rider is going before accepting the trip [0] [2] - Removed a main penalty for declining rides, “No More 85% Acceptance Rate Requirement For Uber Pro” [2] - Drivers get set their own fare with a multiplier [1] (the article details screenshots and…

This is horrible for customers, the worst part is when drivers don't want to pick you up.

Re: Uber CEO says its service will probably shut down temporarily in California

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I work at Uber outside of the rides/eats business and observed many feature releases to adjust the business after AB5. What I saw released: - Enabling drivers to see where a rider is going before accepting the trip [0] [2] - Removed a main penalty for declining rides, “No More 85% Acceptance Rate Requirement For Uber Pro” [2] - Drivers get set their own fare with a multiplier [1] (the article details screenshots and…

Could allowing the driver to see the destination before accepting the trip be used as a way to discriminate?

Re: Uber CEO says its service will probably shut down temporarily in California

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They're all just trying to make a living. And let me remind you that Uber drivers have been caught providing drugs, being prostitutes, and even going on serial murder sprees. All while behind the wheel.

Your comment history is super questionable. Every time I see you commenting on HN, I wonder if you're one of the Russian boogiemen people talk about, or if you're an example of what happens when someone believes too much of what they read on the internet.

Probably don't feed the obvious trolls, and flag / downvote instead.

Re: Uber CEO says its service will probably shut down temporarily in California

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I used to work at Uber. I'll focus on one particular point: allowing drivers to see where riders are going before they accept the trip. Uber, at least when I worked there, was heavily against this functionality as it allows drivers to discriminate against riders who are going to poor neighborhoods or from cities to suburbs where they may have difficulty in getting another rider. That feature is bad for the overall ec…

I used to work at Lyft. It is disgusting how Lyft and Uber treat drivers with their A/B testing etc. Those PMs have no sympathy for drivers. A driver can end up in an experiment group that totally screws his income. WRT to drivers not going to neighborhood I have a solution for you: let passengers offer higher pricers. This is not a new idea BTW

his comment said that drivers don't go to poor neighborhoods. you're suggesting customers to pay more for a ride if they live in a poor neighborhood.

Re: Uber CEO says its service will probably shut down temporarily in California

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Ridiculous that it takes a legal battle for Uber to offer these customer and driver friendly features

I used to work at Uber. I'll focus on one particular point: allowing drivers to see where riders are going before they accept the trip. Uber, at least when I worked there, was heavily against this functionality as it allows drivers to discriminate against riders who are going to poor neighborhoods or from cities to suburbs where they may have difficulty in getting another rider. That feature is bad for the overall ec…

Can you change the destination once you get in the car?
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