Good riddance
Uber CEO says its service will probably shut down temporarily in California
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Re: Uber CEO says its service will probably shut down temporarily in California
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This is about pushing voters to approve Prop 22 in november. If Lyft follows suit, it will definitely put a spotlight on the issue!
Hadn't heard of that and had to look it up. To save anyone else the time, apparently Prop 22 is a one that (as best I understand) would reverse AB 5 specifically for app-based driving apps, which seems really narrow and preferential, even by the standards of CA propositions. Here's the Ballotpedia: https://ballotpedia.org/California_Proposition_22,_App-Based...
It just adds uber drivers to the already ridiculous list of exempt jobs in this stupid law, like doctors, dentists, insurance agents, lawyers, accountants, real estate agents, hairstylists, architects, professional engineers, private investigators, psychologists, veterinarians, securities brokers and dealers, investment advisers, direct sales salespersons,
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Re: Uber CEO says its service will probably shut down temporarily in California
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There were 2 or 3, but they weren't even half as good as either Lyft or Uber. The rides were more expensive and took longer to route for pick up.
Were the rides more expensive because they weren’t using unsustainable VC money to subsidize fares?
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You're only partially correct I as a salaried employee could technically set my own hours but If my employer pinged me at 2am and asked me to do something and I said no I wouldn't have recourse if they fired me. If I'm a contractor I can set those hours in the agreement with the company with legal backing if I then refuse to work during hours I've said I do not wish to work. But you're debating regulation in general…
I’m confused, what does Uber have to do with salaried employees? This is the workflow. 1. Gig worker applies for Uber in the app. 2. Uber approves the employee as a W2 employee. Their schedule is...whatever they want. They never get scheduled for a shift. They never get “fired” unless they do something that would get them get kicked off the platform just as it works today. 3. When the driver starts the driving mode,…
https://www.integrated-payroll.com/difference-w2-employee-10...
The setting your own working hours part. You're just a bit wrong there.
Re: Uber CEO says its service will probably shut down temporarily in California
#385And here I was thinking that they were shutting down due to covid19 to protect people's health.
Silly me.
Re: Uber CEO says its service will probably shut down temporarily in California
#386This law sounds like it's putting the cart before the horse.
The real problem is the cost of healthcare and how everyone should be (but aren't) aligned with lowering the overall costs without compromising on individual care or the treatment of caregivers.
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i was unaware of these changes, its interesting to see the changes that were made. it will be interesting to see how they effect riders/drivers over time. thank you for the post.
Former Uber employee here...unfortunately many of those changes either made rider experience worse or made the marketplace less efficient. Lyft gained share as a result of these changes. At the current rate, the gig industry will be regulated out of california and other regions that follow suit (this surely sets regulatory precedence for others). The product won't be at a mass market compelling price point without a…
Goal of the government isn't to make marketplaces efficient. Regulations focuses more on making them "fair", "safe" and "non-discriminator". Note - definition of those is very political and open to huge interpretations.
Gig-working enjoyed unregulated market, which is great for efficiency. But law is catching up now.
Note - I'm not arguing that laws passed by government are correct. But they're in line with what government thinks it should be doing, and how they act in other business areas.
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I'm sure there's part of that, and there's nothing wrong with that. This is a bad law. The other part are the logistics of creating a set of new policies, and systems to adhere to this law - which takes time.
It's not a bad law - if Uber can't operate in compliance with it, it has a bad business model.
Well then I guess there is not a problem with them suspending operations in california then, right?
Re: Uber CEO says its service will probably shut down temporarily in California
#389shutting down your business is a great way to drive operating costs down to zero...
Re: Uber CEO says its service will probably shut down temporarily in California
#390Maybe I'm cynical but "temporarily shut down" sounds like a formula to: - Inconvenience a certain class of urbanites who have grown accustomed to being driven around in the hopes that they - Complain loudly to their representatives and other governmental officials in the hope that - The state will reverse this judgement
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