Uber CEO says its service will probably shut down temporarily in California

Post by Ijumfs » Wed, Aug 12, 2020, 7:16 PM UTC

derkster wrote: post #224

Ijumfs wrote: post #45

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They're all just trying to make a living. And let me remind you that Uber drivers have been caught providing drugs, being prostitutes, and even going on serial murder sprees. All while behind the wheel.

Your comment history is super questionable. Every time I see you commenting on HN, I wonder if you're one of the Russian boogiemen people talk about, or if you're an example of what happens when someone believes too much of what they read on the internet.

Post by [deleted] » Wed, Aug 12, 2020, 7:17 PM UTC

zjaffee wrote: post #402

twblalock wrote: post #315

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The power to create laws is not supposed to be used as weapon. It clearly was in this case. AB5 was written in bad faith with the goal of hurting specific companies, not with the goal of writing a sensible law that sets a framework for how businesses ought to operate. They wrote it in such a hurry that it unintentionally hurt a bunch of other people and small businesses. That's not how laws are supposed to work.

Laws aren't allowed to be created as weapons, under US constitutional law this is often referred to as illegal taking, if AB5 was illegal taking these companies would've been able to get the law halted which it seems to have not happened.

Post by tedajax » Wed, Aug 12, 2020, 7:20 PM UTC

rrrrrrrrrrrryan wrote: post #349

jacobn wrote: post #28

We’re legally unequipped to deal well with gig workers. They’re arguably neither contractors nor employees, and shoe horning them into either category will inevitably lead to some absurdities.

There obviously needs to be a new class of workers. I've seen the phrase "Dependent Contractor" tossed around here on HN and I think it'd do quite well. If you work for an employer who sets your hours, pay, etc., you'd still be designated as an employee. If you sell your labor to multiple entities, and/or you set your own pay rate, you're an independent contractor. If you do not set your pay rate, you'd be a "depende…

Post by londons_explore » Wed, Aug 12, 2020, 7:22 PM UTC

msoad wrote: post #416

kingnothing wrote: post #367

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I used to work at Uber. I'll focus on one particular point: allowing drivers to see where riders are going before they accept the trip. Uber, at least when I worked there, was heavily against this functionality as it allows drivers to discriminate against riders who are going to poor neighborhoods or from cities to suburbs where they may have difficulty in getting another rider. That feature is bad for the overall ec…

I used to work at Lyft. It is disgusting how Lyft and Uber treat drivers with their A/B testing etc. Those PMs have no sympathy for drivers. A driver can end up in an experiment group that totally screws his income. WRT to drivers not going to neighborhood I have a solution for you: let passengers offer higher pricers. This is not a new idea BTW

Post by kingnothing » Wed, Aug 12, 2020, 7:23 PM UTC

ProAm wrote: post #419

kingnothing wrote: post #367

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I used to work at Uber. I'll focus on one particular point: allowing drivers to see where riders are going before they accept the trip. Uber, at least when I worked there, was heavily against this functionality as it allows drivers to discriminate against riders who are going to poor neighborhoods or from cities to suburbs where they may have difficulty in getting another rider. That feature is bad for the overall ec…

> as it allows drivers to discriminate against riders who are going to poor neighborhoods or from cities to suburbs where they may have difficulty in getting another rider. This is exactly what being a contractor is though. Accepting contract work you'd like, and turning down work you don't. Otherwise you are an employee.