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Atlassian tells employees they can work from home forever

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Post by rightbyte »

gaadd33 wrote: post #144
NoOneNew wrote: post #136

I have a feeling this is going to end up similar to the "open office" fad. Lots of companies are going to go 100% on "forever work from home". Then in a year it's going to be not so much. That being said, I do believe "work from home" will become more of an option and far less frowned upon by employers. Then again, this is a white-collar problem. Blue collar and a few other industries still have to go to work. But wh…

Where has the "open office" fad ended? It seems like companies say it's a great idea even when presented with evidence to the contrary and they never back down or reverse course

The fad ended and became the norm. Like Agile/Scrum.

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Post by stjohnswarts »

webkike wrote: post #103
daenz wrote: post #100

Anyone else suspect we are going to see a massive deflation of cities?

Not really, cities offer public transportation and a lot of enjoyable things to do. They were a thing before large corporations were seated there.

This is why I'm in a suburb working from home. I do not want to ever not be near a city with things to do. I grew up in a very rural area and I hated it. There is a nostalgia uptick every now for the simple life now and then and I remember how terrible it was to be around uneducated rednecks and push it from my mind.

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Post by stjohnswarts »

webkike wrote: post #119
itdagusszous wrote: post #114

Earlier quoted context omitted.

cost of living in cities has been rising at an insane rate over the last decade, a large part of it is tech salaries. I know a ton of software engineers who only live in cities b/c that's where the jobs are. Places outside of cities also offer a lot of (different) enjoyable things to do. Presumably big companies moving jobs away from cities will have some impact.

San Francisco had just as many houses before tech moved in, the only thing tech did was make housing more expensive

Basically yes and insane NIMBY regulations have kept the city from reducing the cost of living via more open housing regulations and support for multiunit housing and ridiculous amounts of permitting.

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Post by caseydm »

james412 wrote: post #146
errantspark wrote: post #46

The first thing that went through my head when I saw this headline was: "Huh, maybe I should send them a resume." I'm hype if this trend continues.

You'd honestly work for the folk responsible for the BitBucket redesign, or the 6 billion lines of dynamic JS loaded for every Jira page? I'd sooner work the curb while living in a coal bunker

Maybe he can close out this 9 year old feature request to add custom domains to cloud apps: https://jira.atlassian.com/browse/CLOUD-6999

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Post by ghaff »

znpy wrote: post #98
rootusrootus wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it may be premature to celebrate the demise of the office. An awful lot of people still like them. And aside from some big names, how many companies are really looking to give up their office work? I work for a mid-size (10000 employees) software company and we are working from home for the forseeable future, but management has been very clear that they think collaboration works best in an office environment,…

> I think it may be premature to celebrate the demise of the office. I agree, but mostly because high speed internet connections aren't that widespread yet.

That's an issue in many truly rural locations. But you don't need gigabit connections to work from home perfectly adequately and 50 Mbit or so connectivity is available in large areas.

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Post by stjohnswarts »

colordrops wrote: post #145
daenz wrote: post #100

Anyone else suspect we are going to see a massive deflation of cities?

If self driving cars ever actually work, coupled with ubiquitous remote work, it seems to me that the major disincentives for living far away from the urban center are mostly gone. If you can sleep or working during your two hour automated commute, it would be a game changer.

Agreed. If I could have a car pick me up and take me to work then I would be a bit more friendly to the idea. The commute here is brutal.

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Post by zargon »

jrott wrote: post #118
pc86 wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Except for JIRA. I'd rather learn a completely new system every 90 days than use JIRA.

I’m never sure if it’s actually core JIRA that is bad or if the problem is how customizable the thing is. It seems like every organization has added a bunch of custom fields and required bits that make it so annoying to use.

The new "next gen" Jira projects remove all the features, but the experience is just as bad. Seems to be a fundamental Jira problem.

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Post by stjohnswarts »

coldtea wrote: post #2

I hope those now remote employees have access to some good issue tracking, repo hosting, and collaboration/documentation tools. Else they'll be forced to use something like Jira, Confluence, Bit Bucket, and such, which suck...

All those things work fine as long as you don't penny pinch on servers. If you do ignore scaling, then yeah it's gonna be slow and horrible.

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Post by mynegation »

caseydm wrote: post #204
james412 wrote: post #146

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You'd honestly work for the folk responsible for the BitBucket redesign, or the 6 billion lines of dynamic JS loaded for every Jira page? I'd sooner work the curb while living in a coal bunker

Maybe he can close out this 9 year old feature request to add custom domains to cloud apps: https://jira.atlassian.com/browse/CLOUD-6999

The lack of this feature is probably intentional

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Post by stjohnswarts »

JoshuaDavid wrote: post #63
dijit wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Man, I’d agree with you if my experiences with these tools wasn’t _so bad_. The current implementation of jira and confluence I’m using is worse than having _no_ ticket tracking and documentation system. Because if it didn’t exist there would be the impetus to implement something. But we just kinda barely limp by with what we have. It’s so barely functional that people actively avoid using it. I’m fully aware that th…

I think you're underestimating how bad the "something" people can come up with is. Think "weekly status reports to describe how you're doing on fixing a problem that was described through email, or an in-person meeting with someone, or a phone call, and never entered into a ticketing system at all". Also the mandatory fields are definitely a per-organization thing. At my org we have I think 3 mandatory fields, which…

If you don't have scripts that will fetch all your parameters and just have to fill in a couple of fields then you're doing it wrong.
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