Anyone else suspect we are going to see a massive deflation of cities?
Not really, cities offer public transportation and a lot of enjoyable things to do. They were a thing before large corporations were seated there.
Atlassian tells employees they can work from home forever
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#112Anyone else suspect we are going to see a massive deflation of cities?
Not really, cities offer public transportation and a lot of enjoyable things to do. They were a thing before large corporations were seated there.
That's the thing though. For the next $few years, they offer nothing but a higher chance of infection. All enjoyable things are closed
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You know what’s worse than having to work with JIRA/Confluence/Bit Bucket, and such? Working with people who keep changing systems every 6-12 months. A crappy system used fully is better than system surfing to find the Holy Grail™.
Man, I’d agree with you if my experiences with these tools wasn’t _so bad_. The current implementation of jira and confluence I’m using is worse than having _no_ ticket tracking and documentation system. Because if it didn’t exist there would be the impetus to implement something. But we just kinda barely limp by with what we have. It’s so barely functional that people actively avoid using it. I’m fully aware that th…
The problem is that this anecdote is not even remotely surprising. I've used JIRA and/or Confluence at three employers and all three had wildly different, and awful, configurations. I have never worked with any technical folks who loved either, although I think on the whole Confluence is slightly better than JIRA.
I thought the same thing for a long time - that Atlassian makes decent products that are often implemented poorly - but the problem is, at what point does it become Atlassian's fault for making products that seem so easy to implement so badly that developers will go out of their way to track work in Excel instead of JIRA?
Re: Atlassian tells employees they can work from home forever
#114Anyone else suspect we are going to see a massive deflation of cities?
Not really, cities offer public transportation and a lot of enjoyable things to do. They were a thing before large corporations were seated there.
Presumably big companies moving jobs away from cities will have some impact.
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#115Earlier quoted context omitted.
Not really, cities offer public transportation and a lot of enjoyable things to do. They were a thing before large corporations were seated there.
> a lot of enjoyable things to do That's the thing though. For the next $few years, they offer nothing but a higher chance of infection. All enjoyable things are closed
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Hipchat memes were the main upside of the product, differenciating it from the market. They were 500x500 squares, not tiny emojimemes like in Discord or Slack. You could truely express an opinion. It was heartwarming. Then they decided that they wanted to look serious, and reduced the meme size to 32px. That’s when the product fell out of fashion, because it was just like Slack with fewer features.
Have we regressed back to drawing things on the (cave) walls?? Thousands of years of linguistic progress out the window...
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I've worked remotely for 4 years now. We try extremely hard to avoid talking in private chats. Each person has their own channel which we try to use over DMs - this works really well although a few people seem to default to DM.
I've worked from home for ~6 years and 2 companies. I really miss real whiteboards. The only thing worse that being on a software team that has no whiteboards, is being the only remote person on a team that has whiteboards in the office.
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You know what’s worse than having to work with JIRA/Confluence/Bit Bucket, and such? Working with people who keep changing systems every 6-12 months. A crappy system used fully is better than system surfing to find the Holy Grail™.
Except for JIRA. I'd rather learn a completely new system every 90 days than use JIRA.
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Not really, cities offer public transportation and a lot of enjoyable things to do. They were a thing before large corporations were seated there.
cost of living in cities has been rising at an insane rate over the last decade, a large part of it is tech salaries. I know a ton of software engineers who only live in cities b/c that's where the jobs are. Places outside of cities also offer a lot of (different) enjoyable things to do. Presumably big companies moving jobs away from cities will have some impact.
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#120I hope those now remote employees have access to some good issue tracking, repo hosting, and collaboration/documentation tools. Else they'll be forced to use something like Jira, Confluence, Bit Bucket, and such, which suck...
You know what’s worse than having to work with JIRA/Confluence/Bit Bucket, and such? Working with people who keep changing systems every 6-12 months. A crappy system used fully is better than system surfing to find the Holy Grail™.
I'd rather use a tool that is flexible by default than use a rigid tool that you need to change every six months.