I feel like it’s the right thing to do at this moment but.. it’s one of those things where the long term consequences are unforeseeable, and it makes me nervous. Like: how can you organize a union if everyone is remote? Does this make outsourcing a lot easier? What about personal connection? Is this a step in the Uber-ification of the office worker? Will we all become independent contractors? It’s impossible to say at this point.
Atlassian tells employees they can work from home forever
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#152Everyone who doesn't get to work from home:
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!
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#153I have a feeling this is going to end up similar to the "open office" fad. Lots of companies are going to go 100% on "forever work from home". Then in a year it's going to be not so much. That being said, I do believe "work from home" will become more of an option and far less frowned upon by employers. Then again, this is a white-collar problem. Blue collar and a few other industries still have to go to work. But wh…
Doctors have to go to work every day too. tons of WFH people are the lowest paid. It's not so clear cut.
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#154I have a feeling this is going to end up similar to the "open office" fad. Lots of companies are going to go 100% on "forever work from home". Then in a year it's going to be not so much. That being said, I do believe "work from home" will become more of an option and far less frowned upon by employers. Then again, this is a white-collar problem. Blue collar and a few other industries still have to go to work. But wh…
If all of the white collar workers who are able to work from home and limit exposure to and spread of covid-19, doesn't that help everyone else who can't work from home?
You don't see the "It's good for you that I hide from the danger and you go out in it" and how incredibly messed up that is?
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#155Anyone else suspect we are going to see a massive deflation of cities?
Not really but i d go long on the RV business.
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#156Earlier quoted context omitted.
You know what’s worse than having to work with JIRA/Confluence/Bit Bucket, and such? Working with people who keep changing systems every 6-12 months. A crappy system used fully is better than system surfing to find the Holy Grail™.
Man, I’d agree with you if my experiences with these tools wasn’t _so bad_. The current implementation of jira and confluence I’m using is worse than having _no_ ticket tracking and documentation system. Because if it didn’t exist there would be the impetus to implement something. But we just kinda barely limp by with what we have. It’s so barely functional that people actively avoid using it. I’m fully aware that th…
For what it's worth, you get the pros and cons pretty well. A large part of our business is based on taking these types of messy systems and move them forward to support the user needs.
Feel free to email me if you think your company may be open to using outside help to clean things up.
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#157Earlier quoted context omitted.
Not really, cities offer public transportation and a lot of enjoyable things to do. They were a thing before large corporations were seated there.
most people move to cities for work, not for restaurants and things to do. Not all, but most.
Okay, but then what would be the incentive for the people who are already there to leave?
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#158Anyone else suspect we are going to see a massive deflation of cities?
Massive? No. For one thing I don't think enough companies will buy into the work from home forever. Although, those that want to work from home will most likely move from the cities, as it almost requires extra space. Plus there are other advantages to cities... Nightlife, variety of eateries, multitude of entertainment options. People. Shopping.
People can rent co-working spaces in cities which is probably cheaper than getting an extra bedroom. That's an expense that some companies have reimbursed in the past. Although with everyone working from home, I'm not sure how equitable offering that as benefit would be viewed as.
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#159Earlier quoted context omitted.
Hipchat memes were the main upside of the product, differenciating it from the market. They were 500x500 squares, not tiny emojimemes like in Discord or Slack. You could truely express an opinion. It was heartwarming. Then they decided that they wanted to look serious, and reduced the meme size to 32px. That’s when the product fell out of fashion, because it was just like Slack with fewer features.
Have we regressed back to drawing things on the (cave) walls?? Thousands of years of linguistic progress out the window...
On the flipside, "a picture is worth a thousand words"...
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it depends a lot on company culture. I see more private conversations in slack happening as opposed to group chat. FOMO is as high as stock market.
I've worked remotely for 4 years now. We try extremely hard to avoid talking in private chats. Each person has their own channel which we try to use over DMs - this works really well although a few people seem to default to DM.
Can you explain what you mean by this? I'm not sure I really understand. Are you saying you create a public channel for each person (ie, their name)? If so, how come?