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If this trend continues, it should affect bay area housing prices. I dont see any reason to pay such high rent, if I could work anywhere in the pacific north west.
If anything wfh means spending more time in your home neighbourhood, so you’re going to need more amenities closer by - which are generally found in cities.
I'm noticing we're about 40/60 with more wanting to go back to the office at my midsize company. I'm happily with the 40, but the company is just using this time to spruce up the office just waiting for our return. I find communication and the work being better now then when we're in the office. All the cliques and hallway talk is more online, so I have a better clue what's going on. I wish it would stay that way.
it depends a lot on company culture. I see more private conversations in slack happening as opposed to group chat. FOMO is as high as stock market.
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You know what’s worse than having to work with JIRA/Confluence/Bit Bucket, and such? Working with people who keep changing systems every 6-12 months. A crappy system used fully is better than system surfing to find the Holy Grail™.
Man, I’d agree with you if my experiences with these tools wasn’t _so bad_. The current implementation of jira and confluence I’m using is worse than having _no_ ticket tracking and documentation system. Because if it didn’t exist there would be the impetus to implement something. But we just kinda barely limp by with what we have. It’s so barely functional that people actively avoid using it. I’m fully aware that th…
Also the mandatory fields are definitely a per-organization thing. At my org we have I think 3 mandatory fields, which are the project the ticket goes under, the title, and the description. In many cases, "migrating" from JIRA to JIRA but 90% of the features are disabled would probably be an improvement.
I hope those now remote employees have access to some good issue tracking, repo hosting, and collaboration/documentation tools. Else they'll be forced to use something like Jira, Confluence, Bit Bucket, and such, which suck...
I am directly responsible for Jira and Confluence admin/infrastructure on an enterprise level and once you know how at least Jira works, its a fairly powerful tool for PM's. I haven't run into many issues except during a migration where we knew we were going to run into issues. Atlassian's documentation isn't that good however.
Collaborating over JIRA on a video conference is PAINFUL AF. A lot of time is spent just waiting for the UI to respond. It is completely unacceptable.
The article mentions that this will allow the company to recruit from areas where pay is much lower than the Bay Area, but I wonder if this will affect the pay of current workers.
Right away? No, not in most cases. For future hires, how could it not? If high COL located companies starting going fully remote, it's a huge opportunity for workers in medium or low COL. For workers still determined to live in a high COL, it will absolutely put downward pressure on their salary. Their labor market is being exposed to a lot of competition that wasn't there before. I think if this trend of going fully…
Further corollary: more workers will be concentrated around 2nd-tier hubs where their wages will be lower than 1st-tier, but higher that median wages. 2nd-tier median wages will then drive up housing prices which will rinse & repeat COL increase trends seen in the Bay Area.
Hopefully these other hubs will have better development zoning & housing policies than San Francisco / Bay Area.
I hope those now remote employees have access to some good issue tracking, repo hosting, and collaboration/documentation tools. Else they'll be forced to use something like Jira, Confluence, Bit Bucket, and such, which suck...
Apparently I'm in a minority but I love Jira for remote work.
The really cool outcome for me would be if all my coworkers get to work from home and I could snatch a whole office just for me (there's a binding rent contract for the next X years still, we might as well use it :P) Edit: this comment was a bit sarcastic, just in case somebody didn't get that.
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I actually liked Hipchat. It did what it was supposed to do - provide instant chat with colleagues - without the overhead and frills of Slack. It was simple and reliable. I'm not sure why it was so disliked.
The memes were also better
Then they decided that they wanted to look serious, and reduced the meme size to 32px. That’s when the product fell out of fashion, because it was just like Slack with fewer features.
If this trend continues, it should affect bay area housing prices. I dont see any reason to pay such high rent, if I could work anywhere in the pacific north west.
I don’t know about the US, but there’s more to urban areas than just the commute time. If anything wfh means spending more time in your home neighbourhood, so you’re going to need more amenities closer by - which are generally found in cities.
uber laidoff american staff and is hiring in India[1]. This is not an exception, just a sign of things to come. If you do ordinary CRUD coding at work in USA, I would seriously start looking at how to pivot out of that job. 1. https://www.businessinsider.com/uber-india-south-asia-stipen...
1. stop allowing foreign workers into the US 2. extremely portable work goes abroad
1. Reduce foreign workers in the US
2. Allow WFH from anywhere* thereby reducing total cost of workforce domestically
*remember things are never done to be awesome for the employee, just the companies bottom line, if both happen then that is fine too.