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Now we should intermittently just turn off websites and services of Chinese companies in the US, randomly lose and/or return shipments, etc. They have been cheating us forever. We should do it too if that is the way they want to do business.
Totally, I've just thrown out everything made in china from my house. You should do the same!
Regardless of how I feel about this particular company or transaction, to me this is a bad overreach of presidential power. I guess it's merely a reflection of the incompetence/inaction of Congress to study the matter and do something about it, as is their responsibility. Why do I say so? 1. The justification for this is that it's a "national emergency with respect to the information and communications technology and…
So does this mean Apple will have to remove WeChat from the App Store everywhere in the world including China? If Apple does this, what will it mean for their huge business in China?
An important note that nobody seems to be reporting on: this is only possible because Apple and Google have control over which apps are permitted on your device. The US government has no legal authority to ban publishing (including apps) in the US. They do, however, have the ability to regulate trade between the operators of the App Store (Apple) and the Play Store (Google), and app publishers, which is what they're…
Has Google ever unilaterally removed sideloaded apps from Android?
Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think most likely Apple and Google will have to remove TikTok and WeChat from the app store in U.S. If you install manually on Android you would probably be able to continue to use it. The executive order only bans transactions (since that is the limit of the power granted to president by IEEPA), so the executive has no authority to "block the app at the network level" -- the IEEPA explicitly restricts the prohibit…
Thanks for the detail. If transaction refers to a payment transaction, then I don't understand how this isn't an abuse of power if it leads to removal from app stores, thus removing all functionality. If the president has the power to ban financial transactions, fine, but by effect, if the app is then removed from the app stores, then that effectively bans it for any other use as well, such as text, video chat, and a…
So maybe the implementation won't be a complete ban from the app store, and instead something much smaller scale that only prevents payments, or if app stores are asked to ban it, maybe the courts will strike it down.
Edit: there is speculation from more knowledgeable people in this New York Times article: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/06/technology/trump-wechat-t... (starting from "The order appeared to ban transactions ...").
Regardless of how I feel about this particular company or transaction, to me this is a bad overreach of presidential power. I guess it's merely a reflection of the incompetence/inaction of Congress to study the matter and do something about it, as is their responsibility. Why do I say so? 1. The justification for this is that it's a "national emergency with respect to the information and communications technology and…
Justifications are meaningless. The US wants to curtail Chinese influence and power, so it finds some mumbo-jumbo to justify it.
An important note that nobody seems to be reporting on: this is only possible because Apple and Google have control over which apps are permitted on your device. The US government has no legal authority to ban publishing (including apps) in the US. They do, however, have the ability to regulate trade between the operators of the App Store (Apple) and the Play Store (Google), and app publishers, which is what they're…
And this is why as a European I think that we should take a long and hard look at our dependency of US technology. Its becoming more and more clear that US is not a stable actor. I think it would be prudent for us to force alternatives to apple and google app stores (and other software) that are housed and owned in Europe. I have no confidence that US intelligence is not accessing our data and setting up profiles on…
There’s nothing wrong with US tech. There is a lot wrong with US persons, subject to capricious US military/law/spying, having real-time control over your device or the services it needs to run.
You can say the same about Chinese tech. Nothing wrong with the device, everything wrong with allowing a government far away real-time remote access/power.
It’s time to peel away software from services once again.
If we break off the control of software distribution, and disable automatic remote updates (which is manufacturer backform/RCE), hardware in the general case can become reasonably safe again.
What a bizarre and interesting turn. I'd give a lot to be able to sit in on the meetings between TikTok and Microsoft right now. I wonder if FB will come over the top with a bid.
> I wonder if FB will come over the top with a bid. Doubt it, they already have a new competing product. As soon as TT engagement drops due to friction the user will switch.
So does this ban transactions with all of Tencent or just those in relation to WeChat? https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/executive-or... Section 1. (a) The following actions shall be prohibited beginning 45 days after the date of this order, to the extent permitted under applicable law: any transaction that is related to WeChat by any person, or with respect to any property, subject to the jurisdiction…
"Threat" aside, it does seem fair for the West to reciprocate bans on Google/Facebook etc, but not sure the best way to communicate with family in China now if the western messaging apps are banned there and vice versa
Email? I know that seems dismissive, but people got along just fine before Facebook, texting, WeChat, etc. I suspect in reality there will be an endless whack-a-mole game with messaging services where people use a different one fairly frequently.
The mail content encryption, GPG/OpenGPG/PGP are not widely deployed, (complex setup for non tech users), and even in that case, the headers are not encrypted.
This is the gap Telegram, Line, Blackberry (partially) have filled over the years.