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US to ban transactions with ByteDance and WeChat in 45 days

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Re: US to ban transactions with ByteDance and WeChat in 45 days

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post #10

Forget I said anything. HN is infiltrated by propaganda without people even realising.

Like...China?

Well China does have a valid reason to outlaw Google et. al, because they publicly siphon your data and are not shy about it. Also if you're gonna downvote, provide a reason and counter-point. This isn't reddit and the downvote button is not for "I don't like this".

Re: US to ban transactions with ByteDance and WeChat in 45 days

#53

Theres an incredible amount of foreign propaganda in western social media anyway. Twitter took down like a million CCP accounts the other month (they made an announcement about it) and thats just the ones they know about. This is a step thats at least in spirit probably makes sense but there are more larger issues. Reddit literally has an API to comment...you think all those policial default subs are real comments? N…

Almost every CCP-owned channel on Facebook has bought fake subscribers, it's so visible they don't even try to hide it. As an example, CGTN French has 20M subscribers, more than any local French newspapers despite being virtually unknown in the country. If you go by subscribers count, it would be the most popular news platform of the country...

Link?

Re: US to ban transactions with ByteDance and WeChat in 45 days

#54
post #25

Is there any precedent for a president to do such a thing? I am completely astonished and dumbstruck that everyone is ok with this.

At least in my social circles, this has been one of the few things trump has done that both dems/conservatives agree with. Why would you be ok with CCP collecting info on US citizens and spreading misinformation to benefit a foreign regime?

Re: US to ban transactions with ByteDance and WeChat in 45 days

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Some people here are wondering about the implications of this. What this means IMO is that all Chinese investments in SV need to be liquidated at fire sale prices in the next 45 days. Regardless of how people here feel about China this is a huge escalation. The US is inflicting huge losses on Chinese companies for no clear violation of US laws on their part. The pandoras box is now open. Do countries get to do this t…

What are your views on IP theft by some companies there. Should that be considered first strike by China.

Re: US to ban transactions with ByteDance and WeChat in 45 days

#56
post #15

An important note that nobody seems to be reporting on: this is only possible because Apple and Google have control over which apps are permitted on your device. The US government has no legal authority to ban publishing (including apps) in the US. They do, however, have the ability to regulate trade between the operators of the App Store (Apple) and the Play Store (Google), and app publishers, which is what they're…

And this is why as a European I think that we should take a long and hard look at our dependency of US technology. Its becoming more and more clear that US is not a stable actor.

I think it would be prudent for us to force alternatives to apple and google app stores (and other software) that are housed and owned in Europe. I have no confidence that US intelligence is not accessing our data and setting up profiles on Europeans that could be used for nefarious purposes.

Re: US to ban transactions with ByteDance and WeChat in 45 days

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post #25

Is there any precedent for a president to do such a thing? I am completely astonished and dumbstruck that everyone is ok with this.

The outcome of this ban has important implications for potential bans in the future that affect apps at odds with administrations. End-to-end apps like Signal come to mind.

Re: US to ban transactions with ByteDance and WeChat in 45 days

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post #47
post #25

Is there any precedent for a president to do such a thing? I am completely astonished and dumbstruck that everyone is ok with this.

Dumbstruck to find that there is a leader with a spine in this country? That's quite something.

Doesn’t this mean that the US is getting closer and closer to a dictatorship?
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